svt3183 14 Posted January 11, 2013 http://www.nj.com/jjournal-news/index.ssf/2013/01/west_new_york_assemblywomans_b.html Please delete if this is a repost but I have not seen anywhere yet. This is in addition to requiring a psych exam, no online ammo purchases, and 10 round mags. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G115BA 0 Posted January 11, 2013 If you read the article they want you to go thru the same psych that the PD goes thru. I have done it it takes a couple of hours, how much do you think that will add to the permit cost. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Jay 0 Posted January 11, 2013 If you read the article they want you to go thru the same psych that the PD goes thru. I have done it it takes a couple of hours, how much do you think that will add to the permit cost. ^This. Two hours of off the wall question. Yeah, this bill will go through Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruger9 0 Posted January 11, 2013 Eff them. I'll buy my guns elsewhere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jamesbod 0 Posted January 11, 2013 psychological interview? relax, after you blah for 1 hour of small talk, your PD would be more than happy to get rid of you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
H.M. Murdock 0 Posted January 11, 2013 As a matter of entertainment, is there a record for the most # of Constitutional amendments violated by a single proposed bill? I'm thinking the record would be held by an elected official in Hudson or southeast Bergen County for sure. Surely her background as a broken bone photographer has provided her with the legal knowledge and accuity to craft new laws that impact millions. I'm glad Assemblywoman Jimenez took time off her day job to write this garbage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackandjill 683 Posted January 11, 2013 Given how much garbage comes out of these Politicians, I think we should have a psych evaluation of every one of these on national TV. Should include ALL relatives of these people published, 4 generations out. After all, we are trusting these people with power, tax money and national security secrets, right ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteF 1,044 Posted January 11, 2013 http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/01/the-big-list-of-who-hates-guns/ Contains: American Psychological Association So you need someone who funds anti-gun organizations to grant you permission so you can exercise a RIGHT. Seems reasonable Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
intercooler 41 Posted January 11, 2013 Well if this becomes law, aside from Police, I might be the only legal owner in the state.......been there done that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOOMSTICK 6 Posted January 11, 2013 Out of curiosity....for those that have been through it.. What consists of a psych evaluation? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Jay 0 Posted January 11, 2013 Out of curiosity....for those that have been through it.. What consists of a psych evaluation? Haven't been through it yet but have gotten a lot of feedback because I was told I may have one around the corner for pre-employment. Lots of questions ranging from normal to off the wall. "Would you rather have sex or do paperwork?" Coupled with things like: "Draw a picture of your family" They will also ask you the same question 5 different ways throughout the exam. It can take anywhere from 15-30 min to 2 hours. Usually if you're on the high end of that range, it's a bad thing. Although, I have heard some agencies will make it 2 hours no matter how "even keeled" you seem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e80hydro 120 Posted January 11, 2013 Out of curiosity....for those that have been through it.. What consists of a psych evaluation? They ask you questions like if you love your mother 8 or 10 different ways, worded differently each time, and then they throw in a few zingers like if you flew 50,000 miles over the Atlantic last year. Usually the person giving the psych eval is more messed up than the person taking it. They become a product of their environment after time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NicePants 58 Posted January 11, 2013 Can we start tarring and feathering these bastards yet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingsoverqueens 10 Posted January 11, 2013 Inspect my house? For what? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDon 3 Posted January 11, 2013 There is a reason why the assembly has committees. No one wants to waste the legislature's time passing laws that are guaranteed to be struck down in the courts. Trust the system and assume this bill is going nowhere. It's just noise. Now, if it gets out of committee and onto the floor, then we go apeshit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xshawnxearthx 0 Posted January 14, 2013 If you read the article they want you to go thru the same psych that the PD goes thru. I have done it it takes a couple of hours, how much do you think that will add to the permit cost. $1250-$1500. I think the place that Bergen County Officers go to in Oakland charges $1500. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deadeye74 5 Posted January 14, 2013 I have taken that test. After having to answer questions like "would you rather commit rape or watch child porn?", your head spins for hours. If you answer any of the questions about your background, ie "have you ever been in a fist fight" yes, you get grilled in the interview portion in an attempt to push you over the edge. This bill needs to die a fast death and never see the light of day again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted January 14, 2013 Haven't been through it yet but have gotten a lot of feedback because I was told I may have one around the corner for pre-employment. Lots of questions ranging from normal to off the wall. "Would you rather have sex or do paperwork?" Coupled with things like: "Draw a picture of your family" They will also ask you the same question 5 different ways throughout the exam. It can take anywhere from 15-30 min to 2 hours. Usually if you're on the high end of that range, it's a bad thing. Although, I have heard some agencies will make it 2 hours no matter how "even keeled" you seem. it all depends on Who is dojng the exam..the one my dept used was the "2 Hour" guy.....and we still managed to hire some Asstards :wild: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted January 14, 2013 Inspect my house? For what? Location and type of storage i would assume...While NJ doesn't have it's own version of the 2nd, the Assembly apparently has NO Qualms about violsting that portion of the state Constitution that DOES coincide with the USC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Polak 3 Posted January 14, 2013 There isn't the manpower to do this even "IF" it passed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
intercooler 41 Posted January 14, 2013 Out of curiosity....for those that have been through it.. What consists of a psych evaluation? mmpi 2... same stuff they give to police applicants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK421 2 Posted January 14, 2013 Anyone proposing one of these tests to become a law maker? LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
intercooler 41 Posted January 14, 2013 $1250-$1500. I think the place that Bergen County Officers go to in Oakland charges $1500. yup...and that place is the leader in the field. NO ONE will argue with them...EVER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M4BGRINGO 139 Posted January 14, 2013 I have taken that test. After having to answer questions like "would you rather commit rape or watch child porn?", your head spins for hours. What kind of question is that? Would they appreciate the response of kiss my ass? The LEO that does all the gun permits and FID's in my town is a friend and has been to my house many times, he's always welcome here, so are his wife and kids. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
intercooler 41 Posted January 14, 2013 Anyone proposing one of these tests to become a law maker? LOL you do now need schooling and counseling to become a school board member...fwiw Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Matrix 105 Posted January 14, 2013 Anyone proposing one of these tests to become a law maker? LOL And an IQ and integrity test as well! ---They'll probably fail all--- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arbelest 29 Posted January 14, 2013 If you read the article they want you to go thru the same psych that the PD goes thru. I have done it it takes a couple of hours, how much do you think that will add to the permit cost. From what I was told pysch evals cost PD's $800 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deadeye74 5 Posted January 14, 2013 What kind of question is that? Would they appreciate the response of kiss my ass? The LEO that does all the gun permits and FID's in my town is a friend and has been to my house many times, he's always welcome here, so are his wife and kids. Exactly. There was a set of questions that were basically no win situations. The group of us that took the test could not believe some of the stuff they asked. Friends or not, I'm not in favor of any home inspection. Precedence is a very dangerous thing to set in some cases. There is no reason to need a home inspection to exercise a constitutional right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason1 0 Posted January 14, 2013 What exactly might they be inspecting for? Too many fatty foods in the refridgerator? More than 2 empty beer cans in the recycling bin? What a crock! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handyman 5,682 Posted January 14, 2013 There isn't the manpower to do this even "IF" it passed. Do you think they care? They have not had the manpower to process FIDs in a timely fashion for years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites