Tober 0 Posted March 6, 2013 Are things starting to calm down a bit with all the gun control issues. I hav'nt really been hearing much since last month. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted March 6, 2013 No, they are NOT calming down. Crazy Uncle Joe Biden has been twisting arms of CO legislators to come down hard on currently legal gun owners, ala NYS Feinstein's bills continue their journey toward a vote. BHO doesn't give a shite about any of us, even his supporters. We, the lawful (currently) gun owners of America are the last speed bump between BHO's masters (George Soros and the NWO) and total domination of the Western world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted March 6, 2013 When its quite that is when you must be very careful to read read read as they will slip stuff in when your guards down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teky0101 6 Posted March 6, 2013 Listen to the last line Gandalf says it explains it all! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BarkNBite 15 Posted March 6, 2013 What about all the DHS military ordinace that's being purchased in conjunction with the threat against the 2A......smarter people are addressing this than here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skorpion317 0 Posted March 6, 2013 Are things starting to calm down a bit with all the gun control issues. I hav'nt really been hearing much since last month. Definitely not. While gun control seems to be dead in the water at the federal level, various states have taken steps to infringe on our rights. The NJ Assembly rammed through a bunch of anti-gun bills, some of which will be taken up in the NJ Senate. New York residents are still fighting Cuomo's tyrannical "SAFE" Act. Democrats in Colorado managed to ram through some anti-gun bills, and Magpul (famous AR-15 magazine and accessory maker) will probably end up leaving there if those bills become law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,138 Posted March 6, 2013 Are things starting to calm down a bit with all the gun control issues. I hav'nt really been hearing much since last month. Ye olde calm before the storm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryan_j 0 Posted March 6, 2013 Absolutely calm before the storm!!! NJ bills won't hit Christie's desk until April I think? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wooly bugger 1 Posted March 6, 2013 I agree it's a lull between the feeding frenzy in the Assembly and whatever is to come in the Senate. I'm taking a deep breath, catching up on all the work I missed doing during the frenzy and getting ready for another blitz in a few weeks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,812 Posted March 6, 2013 Here's an ad-hoc listing of all the anti-2A/RKBA legislation pending in the US House/Senat and California: http://www.thetrutha...the-other-ones/ ~80 different pieces of anti legislation (!) I don't think it includes NJ/CT/CO/MA etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quikz 34 Posted March 6, 2013 America.... If yall havent noticed lately. Has been utterly infected with Closet Socialists, aka 'progressives', etc... These New Age Socialists, in order to FOOL the public, just 're-branded', name changed themselves to eliminate any old skool "commie" stigma. It's a PR game and predictably, something they will never admit to. One well known tactic of the FAR Left, besides prison camps, gulags, is INCREMENTALISM. They do this to slowly and steadily chip away at any Right or Liberty or Individuality that they would find threatening in any way shape or form in their paranoid zeal. They are immersed in theirGospel of Humanist Utopia and will stop at nothing to achieve their aim. Ultimately, leading to killing fields of death. It is important in my opinion, that we recognise this to NOT just be about 'guns'. This is about INCREMENTAL EROSION. 'Guns' are a mere barometer, an indicator of what may further come down the pipeline. If their 'agenda' is not supplanted, I would invite you to travel with me in my time machine and go about 50 yrs into the future, or less. You all will be utterly SHOCKED at the man-made, closet socialist landscape before you. Think non of this is fo real??? Truly, history really IS a broken record... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Dog 19 Posted March 6, 2013 The danger is from two fronts. Both your local and federal government can pass gun control laws. Right now there are bills working their way through the process. If the Federal Government bans do not pass you may see more effort made at the State level. I am sure that many local politicians would rather the Federal Government pass gun control laws so they may be sitting and waiting to see what happens before they support any State gun control bills. I am convince that we are raising a nation of wimps who value life above their liberty and we will eventually succumb to those who do not value life as much as we do just as Rome did. Here was a civilization that had multi storied indoor shopping malls and apartment buildings, running and heated water, etc. who were defeated by people who lived in mud and grass huts. Look at our current enemies and their willingness to sacrifice lives for their beliefs and decide if we are capable of defeating such people. Heck, they can live with no electricity, butchers, cars, etc.. We will crumble if we have no electricity or gasoline. At least most of the nation will. I just do not get the attitude of people who will vote to restrict our constitutional rights to save "just one child". I like to save kids as much as the next person but not at the cost of my liberty and civil rights. If the anti gun people were truly for saving lives they can save a lot more by passing laws to prevent automobile accidents, school bus accidents, swimming pool accidents and medical accidents which all claim the same or many more lives than guns do. Heck, just try to find someone willing to ban alcohol as that is a killer of people too. Nope, when it comes to banning things that people have no personal use for they are all for it if they think it will do any good at all. Some people want to feel a part of something greater than themselves because they are incapable of doing great things on their own. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quikz 34 Posted March 6, 2013 Closet Socialists / Totalitarianists, aka, "progressives, liberals, left wing radicals" do not care about lives. They only care about your 'thoughts', so as to CONTROL all your lives, every aspect. Operative 'doublespeak' keywords in the New Age Closet Socialist agenda: "SAFETY, SAFE, HIGH CAPACITY, WEAPONS OF THE BATTLEFIELD, COMMON SENSE, ASSAULT, LOOPHOLE..." Their list is Endless. FREEDOM IS NOT, A 'LOOPHOLE'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cemeterys Gun Blob 165 Posted March 6, 2013 we're in the eye of the storm as they say...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HandgunKay 0 Posted March 6, 2013 Yep calm before the storm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Dog 19 Posted March 7, 2013 It is just an observation that those of you in NJ are very concerned about gun control while those of us in Florida are worried about having to live under restrictions like you currently have. Most of us would find living under NJ gun laws intolerable and very restrictive. I guess it shows that things can always get worse and/or be happy with what you have as it could be less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njpilot 671 Posted March 7, 2013 America.... If yall havent noticed lately. Has been utterly infected with Closet Socialists, aka 'progressives', etc... These New Age Socialists, in order to FOOL the public, just 're-branded', name changed themselves to eliminate any old skool "commie" stigma. It's a PR game and predictably, something they will never admit to. One well known tactic of the FAR Left, besides prison camps, gulags, is INCREMENTALISM. They do this to slowly and steadily chip away at any Right or Liberty or Individuality that they would find threatening in any way shape or form in their paranoid zeal. They are immersed in theirGospel of Humanist Utopia and will stop at nothing to achieve their aim. Ultimately, leading to killing fields of death. It is important in my opinion, that we recognise this to NOT just be about 'guns'. This is about INCREMENTAL EROSION. 'Guns' are a mere barometer, an indicator of what may further come down the pipeline. If their 'agenda' is not supplanted, I would invite you to travel with me in my time machine and go about 50 yrs into the future, or less. You all will be utterly SHOCKED at the man-made, closet socialist landscape before you. Think non of this is fo real??? Truly, history really IS a broken record... 100% I saw an attorney in CO asked "what happened to CO?" He said "Coloradans haven't changed, Liberals just got good at getting elected". I forget exactly what he said, but basically that they got good at deceiving the public and they're winning elections. If this Country is to survive in any form of what the Founders envisioned, they will need to be eradicated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71ragtopgoat 23 Posted March 7, 2013 To me the American people are the ones that have changed. We have not suffered under an oppressive govt in a long time. Most that have are long since gone. The greatest generation is all but gone. And the new immigrants to this nation are not fleeing oppression but are here for a buck. So they are not a reminder of the evils that await us should we fail in our fight to protect freedom for future generations If we lose this fight a hundred years from now people will look at this moment in time as a turning point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sigman 41 Posted March 7, 2013 America.... If yall havent noticed lately. Has been utterly infected with Closet Socialists, aka 'progressives', etc... These New Age Socialists, in order to FOOL the public, just 're-branded', name changed themselves to eliminate any old skool "commie" stigma. It's a PR game and predictably, something they will never admit to. One well known tactic of the FAR Left, besides prison camps, gulags, is INCREMENTALISM. They do this to slowly and steadily chip away at any Right or Liberty or Individuality that they would find threatening in any way shape or form in their paranoid zeal. They are immersed in theirGospel of Humanist Utopia and will stop at nothing to achieve their aim. Ultimately, leading to killing fields of death. It is important in my opinion, that we recognise this to NOT just be about 'guns'. This is about INCREMENTAL EROSION. 'Guns' are a mere barometer, an indicator of what may further come down the pipeline. If their 'agenda' is not supplanted, I would invite you to travel with me in my time machine and go about 50 yrs into the future, or less. You all will be utterly SHOCKED at the man-made, closet socialist landscape before you. Think non of this is fo real??? Truly, history really IS a broken record... This is absolutely the truth. You're pulling blinders over your eyes and can't face reality if you can't see it happening. It's game over if they get their gun control measures. The proof is in the legislation they're trying to pass. Does it affect the criminals or us? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cold Steel 0 Posted March 7, 2013 It may seem like it's calming down, but NO. Behind the scenes the Leftists are still working to strip us of our rights. Keep the word out there. Keep contacting your Legislators. Sweeney and Christie need to be our targets now. The Left is hoping we see it as calming down, so they can blindside us! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walt of Destiny 412 Posted March 7, 2013 "When you see Indians, worry. When you don't see Indians, worry more" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cold Steel 0 Posted March 7, 2013 Here is a recent example that it's not calming down. The left wing media is pushing their agenda on the sheep. They are lumping suicide by gun in with homocide by gun to get a more favorable result. And look who they use as one of their sources, "The researchers also used data on gun control measures in all 50 states compiled by the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, a well-known gun control advocacy group." The Brady Center! I'm sure they weren't biased in their statistics. http://news.yahoo.com/more-gun-laws-fewer-deaths-134804944.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
papercutninja 24 Posted March 9, 2013 I think what is happening is that they ruling classes are throwing their weight behind the local state legislation in order to help bolster the national legislation. Which is why it's so important we have to keep fighting off the local crap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MeanderingCuban 8 Posted March 9, 2013 It's not calming down, as a matter of fact that is what the law makers want us to think. We can't afford to slow down our momentum, April is only a few weeks away. We need to keep attending the anti-gun talks, constantly meeting with law makers and explaining why all these laws are a bad idea and educating the public. Do not let off for a single moment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Combat Auto 174 Posted March 9, 2013 Listen to the last line Gandalf says it explains it all! :-) +1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W2MC 1,699 Posted March 9, 2013 To me the American people are the ones that have changed. We have not suffered under an oppressive govt in a long time. Most that have are long since gone. The greatest generation is all but gone. And the new immigrants to this nation are not fleeing oppression but are here for a buck. So they are not a reminder of the evils that await us should we fail in our fight to protect freedom for future generations If we lose this fight a hundred years from now people will look at this moment in time as a turning point. That line grabbed me - "...the new immigrants to this nation are not fleeing oppression but are here for a buck..." There's a lot of truth in those few words. They aren't anchored here - land of the free and home of the brave - but view us as the 'land of the big bucks to buy a hacienda back home'. We've got one of our corporations - Citco - flying their flag at half-mast for the tyrant Chavez; and Holly-weird is mourning his passing. We have basketball players embracing North Korea - the same country who has stated the armistice with South Korea is over and has publicly threatened to nuke the US. Our BATF hands arms over the border to arm druglords. Our Attorney General believes its OK to trample posse comitatus laws with unmanned drones over our soil. We've got a Vice President who sounds more like the crazy uncle the family doesn't talk about, and a President who thinks that the 1820's Jacksonian attitude of "to the victor belongs the spoils" should be the hallmark of his second term. A second term won with ballot box shennanigans that would make a banana republic proud - such as lock-outs of pollwatchers and 100% votes for him going on right across our borders. Things are calming down? I think the only reason I think it's quiet right now is because Obama and his friends have bitten-off more than they can chew... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites