Heavyopp 167 Posted March 9, 2013 Do we, as mere commoners, have any recourse against the state or federal gov't for this thing they call national instant check system or NICS - which is forced upon us - not actually being INSTANT? What is happening here in NJ is laughable. Is there anything we can do??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexTheSane 236 Posted March 9, 2013 I'm with you there. I brought my handgun permit in to pick up my new handgun on Feb 26th and they have yet to send the approval back to my gun shop. This is ridiculous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattio41 0 Posted March 9, 2013 I am on 9 days and counting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
East Brunswick Sportsman 4 Posted March 9, 2013 I'm with you there. I brought my handgun permit in to pick up my new handgun on Feb 26th and they have yet to send the approval back to my gun shop. This is ridiculous. Have your dealer contact the NICS unit. We are waiting about 6 business days for a response, They are losing a bunch of them as they are faxed in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melgamatic 66 Posted March 9, 2013 I'm with you there. I brought my handgun permit in to pick up my new handgun on Feb 26th and they have yet to send the approval back to my gun shop. This is ridiculous. I got 2 and 3 day service last two; I think your store is messing up... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted March 9, 2013 I got 2 and 3 day service last two; I think your store is messing up... You've been lucky. I was just at my LGS and he was getting stuff back from last Saturday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexTheSane 236 Posted March 9, 2013 Have your dealer contact the NICS unit. We are waiting about 6 business days for a response, They are losing a bunch of them as they are faxed in. They re-faxed it on Wednesday. I'm just getting antsy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobblackrifle 28 Posted March 9, 2013 Filled out paperwork yesteday at LGS, was told 7-10 days wait. 1 month ago wait was 3 days for my last purchase. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wooly bugger 1 Posted March 9, 2013 Do you have to physically go there to fill out paperwork or can you do it by mail. My FFL is one hour away, so this truly sucks to make two trips. This whole anti-gun situation is approaching an inflection point of intolerability. I feel like we're on the brink of intolerability. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RubberBullets 65 Posted March 9, 2013 We shouldnt have to ask the ffl to refax.. we shoild ask our state to provide the "instant" check system they are paid to provide. Allocate the resources or hand it back to the feds. Im still game for a coordinated verbal bash on the njsp social media sites asking for results. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handyman 5,682 Posted March 9, 2013 Unfortunately, the state feels no obligation to follow its laws. If law enforcement, legislators and the courts decide not to give a damn, where is one supposed to turn? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,264 Posted March 9, 2013 FTF that only works with longguns thuogh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSD1026 48 Posted March 9, 2013 You've been lucky. I was just at my LGS and he was getting stuff back from last Saturday. i wish i got it back today from last Saturday. i went to my FFL last saturday and its not back yet (AFAIK), Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted March 9, 2013 that only works with longguns thuogh? ????? Sent from my DROID4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjd832 146 Posted March 9, 2013 that only works with longguns thuogh? If you have a valid pistol permit ..matching fid and dl you can do a f2f for a pistol with no nics call.... Edit: forgot to add both buyer and seller must be nj residents or it does need to go through an ffl which will include the new ever growing de facto "waiting period"/nics Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,264 Posted March 9, 2013 ????? Sent from my DROID4 i thought all pistol sales had to go through an ffl, and thus a nics check, whereas long guns one need only have a coe for f2f? aahh.....just saw the above post........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK421 2 Posted March 10, 2013 I feel bad for my brother in law, his extended permit expires Monday. The 30 days from the last purchased was just up on the 7th. He purchased an M&P22 today but because NICs is taking so long he will not be able to pick up the gun on this permit, he has to apply for a new one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryan_j 0 Posted March 10, 2013 If it's a long gun, buy it in Pennsylvania. No long wait for NICS there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9X19 125 Posted March 10, 2013 I'm with you there. I brought my handgun permit in to pick up my new handgun on Feb 26th and they have yet to send the approval back to my gun shop. This is ridiculous. Have them call Nics and re-fax it. It never went through or was lost. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9X19 125 Posted March 10, 2013 I got 2 and 3 day service last two; I think your store is messing up... It was 2-3 days 2 weeks ago. Now it is 6-7 days Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johngo1 0 Posted March 10, 2013 Correct me if I am wrong. Isn't there a law that if you don't get a reply within 3 days then you automatically get the gun? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted March 10, 2013 Correct me if I am wrong. Isn't there a law that if you don't get a reply within 3 days then you automatically get the gun? Only after they get the info and the person goes "pending". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halbautomatisch 60 Posted March 10, 2013 Do we, as mere commoners, have any recourse against the state or federal gov't for this thing they call national instant check system or NICS - which is forced upon us - not actually being INSTANT? What is happening here in NJ is laughable. Is there anything we can do??? Sure, you can file a lawsuit in federal court against the state of NJ. Some possible avenues to try: - They are violating your 2A rights. - They are restricting interstate commerce. Good luck, we're all rooting for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DargZ 5 Posted March 10, 2013 At what point should the FFL re-submit the check? Is this after 10 days? If the initial NICS check for a handgun has been submitted and they are still reviewing it and a second NICS check for a handgun is submitted, would this cause problems where they would reject your request? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted March 10, 2013 They just have to call and see if they received it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wooly bugger 1 Posted March 10, 2013 If there's any silver lining to this, it's this: if Cryan's bill requiring background check for ammo purchases goes to the floor, he current situation will certainly wake up the fudds and result in a massive backlash. Imagine going through this for a day of sporting clays. I can't believe the situation has devolved to where I'm grasping at these kinds of straws... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heavyopp 167 Posted March 10, 2013 I wish I was as far as the NICS -- If a NICS takes 7 to 9 days -- How long does it take for the state to do the Name check for a P2P -- I'm 6 weeks in and my local PD sent it out with the reference letters which got to my people 2 days from application -- Their still waiting for the name check to come back from the state Just tired of this silly system and their total disregard for us who are trying to follow the law Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johngo1 0 Posted March 10, 2013 I wish I was as far as the NICS -- If a NICS takes 7 to 9 days -- How long does it take for the state to do the Name check for a P2P -- I'm 6 weeks in and my local PD sent it out with the reference letters which got to my people 2 days from application -- Their still waiting for the name check to come back from the state Just tired of this silly system and their total disregard for us who are trying to follow the law Did you check to see if njsp cashed the $18 money order yet? That's an indication of if they have even processed the request Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G115BA 0 Posted March 10, 2013 I heard it is being changed to the NWCS, weekly check. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites