Newtonian 453 Posted February 21, 2015 As you may know I am a Mosin Nagant aficionado. Since I've been collecting them I have been awaiting in vain for opportunities to use them against advancing Nazi hordes, zombies, and starving bands of low-land marauders. Now an ingenious NJ gun lover has discovered an application for the Mosin that I'm sure will bring smiles to your faces: http://goo.gl/13SsAz A tuna fisherman has been accused of shooting at pilot whales from his vessel with a World War II-era rifle. Daniel Archibald surrendered Thursday to face the charges and was released on a $10,000 unsecured bond. Archibald, who's from Cape May, widely considered America's oldest seaside resort, used a Mosin-Nagant rifle to shoot at pilot whales from the vessel Capt. Bob, the U.S. attorney's office for New Jersey said. I hope it didn't have a hex receiver. Would be a shame to have one of those melted down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,878 Posted February 21, 2015 Authorities said Archibald told them he had "sprayed" fire at pilot whales, which are extremely social animals, about a month earlier to chase them away from his vessel's fishing lines Spraying fire from a mosin? that's tough... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,327 Posted February 21, 2015 Angelo, While I abhor what he did, I have a question about a Mosin Nagant that a friend gave me. I believe it 's stampted 1955 and I got it in the box still in cosmoline. What a mess that was! It's made in Poland and really has a nice stock. My question is should I keep that one unfired as a collector piece and buy a junker to shoot? I have no idea if the one I have has value or not. You are the expert and you would know better. I heard the ones made in Poland were of better quality. Thanks, John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 177 Posted February 21, 2015 Spraying fire from a mosin? that's tough... It must have had a high capacity 5 round clip and one of those things that goes up. In all seriousness, this guy is an idiot for shooting whales. I'm sure throwing a few m80's in the water would work well in scaring them away out of the area away from his nets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fishnut 2,358 Posted February 21, 2015 If it is true that he was shooting at whales fuck him I hope he is convicted of everything he is charged with and gets raped in jail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PD2K 115 Posted February 21, 2015 I have no sympathy for a bozo shooting wales. I hope they throw the book at him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,327 Posted February 21, 2015 If it is true that he was shooting at whales fuck him I hope he is convicted of everything he is charged with and gets raped in jail. +1,000,000 I guess that asshat did not realize or care that whales share a trait with humans, intelligence! Ten times the intelligence of that asshole, obviously!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 611 Posted February 21, 2015 If it is true that he was shooting at whales fuck him I hope he is convicted of everything he is charged with and gets raped in jail. By the letter of the law if he was not intentionally shooting AT a whale he is in the clear. BUT, in any case this douche bag is a piece of immoral shit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted February 21, 2015 If it is true that he was shooting at whales fuck him I hope he is convicted of everything he is charged with and gets raped in jail.He could have been Japanese, and "conducting research" lol... Don't worry next week another news article will surface about how they found empty bags of Heroin on his boat, and that he was killing whales in a known drug running route of the ocean hahha... I wonder if the Bob Barker and Steve Irwin will be patrolling the NJ coastline now? Whales are pretty cool animals, why anyone would want to kill them is beyond me. I understand they strip fishermen's nets from time to time, but that's part of the job. Just like deer eat farmers crops, difference here is no one person owns the ocean, unlike a farmers private property. And Deer aren't a protected species. This guy is an idiot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted February 21, 2015 Angelo, While I abhor what he did, I have a question about a Mosin Nagant that a friend gave me. I believe it 's stampted 1955 and I got it in the box still in cosmoline. What a mess that was! It's made in Poland and really has a nice stock. My question is should I keep that one unfired as a collector piece and buy a junker to shoot? I have no idea if the one I have has value or not. You are the expert and you would know better. I heard the ones made in Poland were of better quality. Thanks, John Do all the numbers match on bolt, receiver, floor plate, butstock? Post some pictures of the proof marks. There's a few guys here that can tell you a lot about that rifle with the right information. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted February 21, 2015 quite a few of us love mosins, please share the marking on your gun Johhnyb btw who's Angelo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted February 21, 2015 btw who's Angelo? Aka Newtonian Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glockncolts 50 Posted February 21, 2015 I wonder if the Bob Barker and Steve Irwin will be patrolling the NJ coastline now? I am quite sure Steve will not be....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted February 21, 2015 I am quite sure Steve will not be.......Their boats, Google "whale wars", you'll get it. http://www.seashepherd.org/news-and-media/2008/10/30/sea-shepherd-renames-its-whale-defending-ship-the-steve-irwin-615 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobertJames 14 Posted February 21, 2015 In Soviet Russia, whales shoot back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oakridgefirearms 224 Posted February 21, 2015 Angelo, While I abhor what he did, I have a question about a Mosin Nagant that a friend gave me. I believe it 's stampted 1955 and I got it in the box still in cosmoline. What a mess that was! It's made in Poland and really has a nice stock. My question is should I keep that one unfired as a collector piece and buy a junker to shoot? I have no idea if the one I have has value or not. You are the expert and you would know better. I heard the ones made in Poland were of better quality. Thanks, John Does the bolt match the rifle? If it's not matching it's going to be less of a collector piece and more of a shooter. Even if it does match and it's unfired, shooting it isn't going to diminish the value much if you take care of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,327 Posted February 21, 2015 quite a few of us love mosins, please share the marking on your gun Johhnyb btw who's Angelo? https://www.flickr.com/photos/129126160@N06/sets/72157650552145938/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,327 Posted February 21, 2015 Does the bolt match the rifle? If it's not matching it's going to be less of a collector piece and more of a shooter. Even if it does match and it's unfired, shooting it isn't going to diminish the value much if you take care of it. All numbers match. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted February 22, 2015 very nice m44 nice collector piece Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,327 Posted February 22, 2015 very nice m44 nice collector piece Thanks, Am I better off not shooting it? I have no idea what it's value is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted February 22, 2015 Thanks, Am I better off not shooting it? I have no idea what it's value is. Nice M44, I wouldn't say don't shoot it. But if you do buy the good non corrosive ammo for it. And keep it clean after using it. They are fun to shoot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usnmars 136 Posted February 22, 2015 Certain firearms are worth considerably more in the unissued/unfired state than a range gun. I have a few unissued guns and the rule of thumb is that they are only new once........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted February 22, 2015 It's surplus, hard to say if it was ever fired or not. Being that it looks that good and all the parts are still original, probably never issued. Hard to say if I would shoot that or not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,327 Posted February 22, 2015 Considering the only blemishes on this rifle if any. happened in my safe or while I was removing the Cosmoline, I will not shoot this rifle and will keep this one pristine while searching for a shooter to use for fun. Anyone know of a good source for a shooter Mosin M44??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted February 22, 2015 Considering the only blemishes on this rifle if any. happened in my safe or while I was removing the Cosmoline, I will not shoot this rifle and will keep this one pristine while searching for a shooter to use for fun. Anyone know of a good source for a shooter Mosin M44??? Any weekend gun show in PA. Usually a few dozen to choose from. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tuktuk 16 Posted February 22, 2015 honestly considering that they are still relatively cheap u can afford to buy second rifle as a shooter and screw that bastard for shooting a whale ... I was watching one of those shows about Alaska (discovery or national geographic channel ) . The natives were using Mosin to hunt ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,327 Posted February 22, 2015 Any weekend gun show in PA. Usually a few dozen to choose from. I will attend the next show near Philly and hopefully pick up a shooter since I already bought some ammo for the one I am NOT going to shoot! Two questions, The unissued, unfired Mosin I figure worth about $400 The shooter Mosin I guess I will pay around $200. Am I in the ballpark with these figures??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted February 22, 2015 I will attend the next show near Philly and hopefully pick up a shooter since I already bought some ammo for the one I am NOT going to shoot! Two questions, The unissued, unfired Mosin I figure worth about $400 The shooter Mosin I guess I will pay around $200. Am I in the ballpark with these figures??? I'm not sure on your polish the price exactly. But you can find a shooter m44 for around that price. If I were you I would look for the M38 it's the same carbine as the M44 without the bayonet. Much lighter IMO. You can probably find a 91/30 between $100-200. If you look hard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blake 50 Posted February 22, 2015 Angelo, While I abhor what he did, I have a question about a Mosin Nagant that a friend gave me. I believe it 's stampted 1955 and I got it in the box still in cosmoline. What a mess that was! It's made in Poland and really has a nice stock. My question is should I keep that one unfired as a collector piece and buy a junker to shoot? I have no idea if the one I have has value or not. You are the expert and you would know better. I heard the ones made in Poland were of better quality. Thanks, John I also have an unfired polish m44. All matching, beautiful stock. Apparently they found a bunch of them somewhere in the early 90s and imported a ton of them all in new condition. Im not shooting mine its not often you find something that old and still unfired. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtonian 453 Posted February 22, 2015 Angelo, While I abhor what he did, I have a question about a Mosin Nagant that a friend gave me. I believe it 's stampted 1955 and I got it in the box still in cosmoline. What a mess that was! It's made in Poland and really has a nice stock. My question is should I keep that one unfired as a collector piece and buy a junker to shoot? I have no idea if the one I have has value or not. You are the expert and you would know better. I heard the ones made in Poland were of better quality. Thanks, John As my posts clearly indicate I am no expert on any subject related to guns! I could brag that I've been shooting since age 14, which would be technically correct, but in truth I only really started less than 30 years ago, and in earnest just 3-4 years ago. You should thank your friend. I did a brief Google search and found Polish Mosins selling for anywhere from $350 to $800+. Condition and matching numbers increases their value. I held my nose when I paid $210 or $220 for my laminate stock Russian Mosin. My others cost between $110 and about $150 (hex receiver). Mine are all 1930 s to early 1940s, all with matching numbers although two have horrible sticky bolt problems that I've been unable to solve. I've seen some Polish Mosins for sale that were unfired. I don't believe I've seen any Russians in similar condition. The Internet (and other posters) are much better sources of info on these guns than me. However, my philosophy is unless you're talking about the gun that Wyatt Earp used at the OK Corral I'd shoot the danged thing. If you take good care of the gun any reduction in value will be more than offset by the fun of shooting it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites