Zeke 5,504 Posted November 27, 2015 Initially I was going for the 220 elite carry, now I'm not sure. Having thoughts bout the 229and 226 elite. I don't have a .45 My only handy is an sr9 currently. My permits should be ready this week( talked to pd on weds) I haven't shot any of the sig's, although I fondled my buddies 220 Any of your input is appreciated Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,666 Posted November 27, 2015 Before you drop your hard earned cash on anything, go shoot a Sig, preferably one of the models you are looking at. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted November 27, 2015 Before you drop your hard earned cash on anything, go shoot a Sig, preferably one of the models you are looking at.I'm gonna guess you are not a fan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted November 27, 2015 For hd, I feel more comfortable with a hammer fired gun. I know sig is quality, I am no longer buying junk, part investment Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,666 Posted November 27, 2015 I have no issues with Sig's standard lineup (220, 226, 229, 239). I'm just saying make sure you shoot one and you don't like something better. You may decide you like an HK, S&W, Glock, etc.... Better. You may shoot the Sig and decide you hate the high bore and muzzle flip, the grip may not feel right, you can't reach the decocker, etc.... I learned this lesson the hard way when I bought my HKP2000. On paper it was the perfect gun. It had evertyrhing I wanted: different size back straps, ambi-controls, LEM trigger, it was HK! I walked in to Ray's Sport Shop and dropped $800 on it without ever firing one. I proceeded to struggled to shoot it well over the next 4 years before I sold it. What is the rationale for preferring a hammer fired gun for HD/SD? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirk2022 43 Posted November 27, 2015 I agree with shooting before you buy. I always want to run A gun before I buy. That being said. The high bore axis is A mute point as far as Im concerned. I own plenty of Sigs. But I have other brands (no Glocks though) Sigs are A fine gun, just like many others. No Sig collection will be complete without A 228, 226 and older 229. Goodluck on your search and enjoy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted November 27, 2015 Gentleman, this is true. I know this, I'm prolly being impatient for me christmas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted November 27, 2015 I have no issues with Sig's standard lineup (220, 226, 229, 239). What is the rationale for preferring a hammer fired gun for HD/SD? honestly, lack of confidence in my abilities.I've never understood a trigger safety. But, I think I would feel a lot more confident with a decocker. As opposed to the glock like setup. Hey man, I'm a carpenter that just wants the best tools to protect his family. I'm not an operator or mall ninja. And I don't want an nd while somthing happens before I become proficient. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted November 27, 2015 Training takes time and $ things I know I need to do Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diamondd817 828 Posted November 27, 2015 Don't forget about Beretta. DA/SA, Decocker, and Manual Safety if that makes you feel better. 92FS or PX4. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted November 27, 2015 Don't forget about Beretta. DA/SA, Decocker, and Manual Safety if that makes you feel better. 92FS or PX4.wife wants the M9" cause who doesn't want a lazer". ( her words) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,666 Posted November 27, 2015 I hope she has big hands. I have little tiny hands and I can barely reach the trigger adequately On the topic of a hammer - DA revolver, DA/SA semi, striker fired semi - it doesn't matter. If you violate the first and third rule of firearm safety, you will eventually have an ND. Plenty of people that aren't Mall Ninja/Operators shoot striker fired pistols with no issues. Plenty of people that are Mall Ninja/Operators have NDs with DA only guns - revolver and semi, heavy trigger or light, trigger safety or not. It's a software issue, not hardware. I personally think a double action/single action trigger is harder to shoot than a gun with a single trigger pull type - whether that is striker fired, SA only, or DA only. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted November 28, 2015 I have no agurement it's a software issue. In my line of work we refer to it as time on job. She wants what she wants. Happy wife, happy life. It ends up jus being one more MY safe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mustang69 505 Posted November 28, 2015 If you're considering Sigs and want .45acp, also look at the p227. Best way to describe it is a double stack p220. Otherwise has the usual Sig controls and feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,326 Posted November 28, 2015 I have the Sig P220 in .45 cal. with a built in Lasermax and a Sig P229 SS Elite in .40 cal. I love both of them! Being a Carpenter, you know the importance of having a hammer and I understand your desire for your gun to have one as well! I am not a carpenter but I too like the look and feel of a hammer. I like the ability to know right away if the gun is cocked or not. I feel safer with the longer and harder trigger pull on the first round in double action. I also have the Beretta PX4 Storm compact in 9mm. It also has a hammer! Perhaps I spent too much time with revolvers when I started shooting! I just don't feel as safe and sure of myself with a striker fired pistol! I own a couple striker fired semis but I just prefer the DA/SA much more! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted November 28, 2015 I have the Sig P220 in .45 cal. with a built in Lasermax and a Sig P229 SS Elite in .40 cal. I love both of them! Being a Carpenter, you know the importance of having a hammer and I understand your desire for your gun to have one as well! I am not a carpenter but I too like the look and feel of a hammer. I like the ability to know right away if the gun is cocked or not. I feel safer with the longer and harder trigger pull on the first round in double action. I also have the Beretta PX4 Storm compact in 9mm. It also has a hammer! Perhaps I spent too much time with revolvers when I started shooting! I just don't feel as safe and sure of myself with a striker fired pistol! I own a couple striker fired semis but I just prefer the DA/SA much more! Thank you.HE this my current version of software. It my change in time with training($). I'll pose this to HE , you upgrade my software, I'll teach you to cope and scribe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,666 Posted November 28, 2015 Zeke, I will take you up on that offer gladly brother! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted November 28, 2015 HE Here is a smidget of my letter of resume. http://www.parkplacemag.com/09/2010/classic-comfort/ Please keep in mind, whatever sex toy you you beat me with when I screw up, I'll bring one 2x as big for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted November 30, 2015 If the wife insists on a 92 and has small hands, the vertec might be an option. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteF 1,044 Posted December 1, 2015 Have 220e, 226e 40, 229 sas g2 40, 239 40. If you have big hands the 220 and 226 are excellent. The 229 is just a tad smaller. Still very easy to shoot. The 239 i find a little small. Conceals well but not an "all day at range" type gun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warden469 2 Posted December 1, 2015 I have a 229 enhanced elite. I like the smaller size compared to the 226. It fits my hand perfect and is very accurate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gleninjersey 2,141 Posted December 1, 2015 For home defense, wheel gun. No failure to eject, stove pipes, safety to think about engaging, wondering if one is in chamber or you need to rack it, fumbling with magazine, etc. Revolver - point, pull trigger, BANG. No bang, pull trigger again. My wife prefers the revolver. Simple, easy to undertand and operate. With that said, if you are dead set on a semi and you / wife has small hands then you should look at CZ. Ergonomic wise they are one of the best guns I've held. They are tack drivers and ultra reliable. I've prob put at least a thousand rounds throw mine with zero issues. The CZ 75B is a tad large for my hands but my CZ P01 fits perfectly. It's the decocker model. You and wife are more than welcome to test drive them out at EFGA or we can meet in Jersey if you shoot here. I think she would like the way the P01 fits & feels. There's a reason outside of the US that CZ is the most copied style of handgun. You'll also save a few hundred over the Sig, I'm not saying SIGs aren't wonderful pieces of mechanical goodness. But for HD I would first consider a revolver. When I hear smaller hands and semi auto I immediately think CZ and of their incredible ergonomics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted December 1, 2015 Can you get caliber kits for the 229? As far as the 92, that's totally up to her. She has yet to apply for her p2p's for it. She has held one at lgs. She is also comfortable shooting my sr9. Wheel gun is on the list, that why I get multiple permits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted December 1, 2015 What is the rationale for preferring a hammer fired gun for HD/SD? The SEALs use them? It's funny you ask this as I learned it the expensive way. Was a huge sig fanboy until I realized how much slower i am on a hammer fired gun vs a striker fired gun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted December 1, 2015 I'll take 15 rounds of 9mm over 6-8 rounds of 38 special any day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatty 241 Posted December 1, 2015 I have a P226 stainless elite and I love it. Accurate as hell and highly recommended I'd recommend to shoot as many different models as you can... and get the one you shoot best. I have a thing for stainless or all-steel pistols... even though they come with extra weight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted December 1, 2015 The SEALs use them? It's funny you ask this as I learned it the expensive way. Was a huge sig fanboy until I realized how much slower i am on a hammer fired gun vs a striker fired gun. In what use? Gun games? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted December 1, 2015 I have a P226 stainless elite and I love it. Accurate as hell and highly recommended I'd recommend to shoot as many different models as you can... and get the one you shoot best. I have a thing for stainless or all-steel pistols... even though they come with extra weight. thank you, I know to try before I buy.The big question is .45 or 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted December 1, 2015 Zeke, I will take you up on that offer gladly brother!will my wife not love me if I don't have a glock? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted December 1, 2015 The SEALs use them? It's funny you ask this as I learned it the expensive way. Was a huge sig fanboy until I realized how much slower i am on a hammer fired gun vs a striker fired gun. Slower? How? Either use a SAO, or just practice DA. Fastest gun is Jerry's revolver lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites