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By Frank Thomas
Does anyone know if I can now apply for concealed carry in NJ? Very confusing. The form, "State of NJ - APPLICATION FOR PERMIT TO CARRY A HANDGUN..." appears to not have been updated. As an illustrative example, there's no mention about weapons training. And the form is dated "03/15." So how do I apply to carry a weapon post-Supreme Court ruling? And has anyone in NJ applied and been approved under the new Supreme Court ruling? Thanks
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By Ramup422
In light of the poor ruling against the 2nd Amendment today by the 9th Circuit court, the Almeida / Tumminelli v. NJ case moves forward and will be filed at the Federal Courts in Newark on Friday, June 10th 2016 by the law firms hired to move the case forward. The 3 law firms involved are out of Pennsylvania, Mississippi and California. The details of the complaint, law firms involved and updates will all be made public for your viewing after the approval on the release of such is obtained by the lead attorney. This case is being funded 100% by us, the laypeople (we, the people) and their supporters. To learn more, visit the Party of Six on their FB page or at www.partyofsix.org
Thank you,
Albert Almeida
no quarters given
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By Michael1776
Michael J. Cino is the Chairman of the Constitutional Carry Coalition - we believe that "justifiable need" should be trashed - Please CALL TEN PEOPLE you know in the 5th Congressional District and ASK THEM TO VOTE FOR MICHAEL J. CINO IN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY JUNE 7 AgainstTheEstablishment.com
Then ask them to CALL TEN PEOPLE THEMSELVES
and then ask those TEN to call TEN PEOPLE to Vote for Michael J. Cino in the 5th Congressional District on June 7 - it's the only way we are going to get rid of "justifiable need" and change the gun laws in New Jersey AgainstTheEstablishment.com
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By NJGF
Violent Home Invasion
Case Illustrates Threat Posed by Gangs
https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2016/april/violent-home-invasion/violent-home-invasion?utm_campaign=email-Immediate&utm_medium=email&utm_source=fbi-top-stories&utm_content=537558
"Violent gangs pose a significant threat to communities throughout the United States. You don’t have to live in South Central Los Angeles or Chicago’s inner city to feel the impact of gang violence, as a recent case from Washington state illustrates."
"Around 9:30 p.m., a 66-year-old Lakewood man answered a knock at his door and was confronted by the three youths, who forced their way into the home. The gang members had picked the wrong house, but that didn’t matter to them. What happened next was 20 minutes of terror for an innocent couple"
"...they kicked down the locked bedroom door where the couple had barricaded themselves behind their bed. Confronted again by the attackers, the man fired two shots, hitting 19-year-old Taijon Vorhees both times.
At that point, all three robbers fled and drove away"
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By Midwest
MO lawmaker wants gun owners to consider retreat over firing
http://www.kctv5.com/story/24856794/mo-lawmaker-wants-gun-owners-to-consider-retreat-over-firing
Missouri lawmaker wants gun owners to retreat instead of shooting to defend. Rep Randy Dunn proposed HB 1940 http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking/bills141/billpdf/intro/HB1940I.PDF The bill would require a person to retreat when facing danger.
Attorney Kevin Jamison strongly opposes the bill.
"I'm appalled. This is showing more regard for home invaders than home owners," he said. "This is an absurd piece of legislation. It should be given the contempt it deserves."
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Near it. Now don't argue a few inches of penetration here. That can vary to the testing conditions using ballistics gel. But ballistics gel, properly used, gives a consistent standard for evaluation. 45 hardball runs about 30" of penetration. 9mm parabellum fmj runs 24-26". Not much difference. I have seen 45 fmj hit heavy bone like a hip and not exit. But the shot stopped the guy. Made the bad guy fall down. He dropped his gun in the process and offer no further resistance. Remember, as good guys we dont shoot to kill we shoot to stop. If you get the first shot off, miss the bad guy, and he drops his gun and surrenders that is a successful shoot. From the tests I've seen most of the 9mm copper rounds run about the same or a bit more than std fmj. They get their penetration from their high velocity. AFAIC I'd just as soon use fmj than pay the premium price copper rounds cost. Remember, once you get an entry and exit wound on the bad guy anything else is wasted and dangerous. There was a shooting by NYPD in the past few years. IIRC the bad guy was kind of big and was coming after two NYPD officers with a knife. Both shot him and they found bullets in the bad guys jacket. Initially it was reported the jacket stopped the Gold Dot the NYPD officers were using. When the boys (and girls) from forensics got done with their stuff the bullets had penetrated the bad guy and lodged in the jacket. Perfect performance of a SD bullet. There was another shooting outside the Empire State Building. The bad guy wasn't that big. NYPD shot him and there were claims bystanders were hit by the NYPD bullets. The crew from forensics proved the bystanders were hit by fragments of the NYPD bullets that had penetrated the bad guy. So much for all the people who claim cops can't shoot. I bring these incidents up because I always wait "for the rest of the story" before making a judgement. I'm not a fan of +P except in 38 special. I carry factory wadcutters in a j frame. Ive stated my reasons why several times. However, if you havent seen them pm me and I'll tell you. NATO spec pressure falls between SAAMI spec and +P. +P in 9mm really doesn't get you much more in performance over standard 9mm rounds. I've drifted from your question but felt my answer is applicable. The hollowpoint law in NJ only puts bystanders at risk.
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