OfcrFek 21 Posted February 9, 2017 A while back I bought a 20 inch Hbar in .223 Wylde for a SPR build. Ended up finally getting around to build it (after over a year), except the barrel is shooting absolutely horrible groups. After some experimenting, it was determined the barrel is garbage. Is there anything that can be done with it besides keeping it next to my work bench as a club (joking)? I read somewhere it was possible to recut the barrel as a larger caliber. Is this true, and is it cost effective to do something like this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
junkmanted 54 Posted February 9, 2017 whats wrong with the barrel ? is it as simple as re crowning it ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted February 9, 2017 Build a .22lr upper ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatty 241 Posted February 9, 2017 I'm curious what could be off about the barrel too. Do you know the maker? that sucks that a Hbar in 223 wylde is not shooting to your expectations Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatty 241 Posted February 9, 2017 if it is trashed, maybe you could consider getting the barrel chopped down and re-profiled to another desired length. 14.5-16" for CQB type distance? maybe it's still usable in a different config. could be a fun project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MidwestPX 172 Posted February 9, 2017 You could have it bored out, re-crowned, re-plated, and re-stress relieved. But you'd be into it for more than a new barrel would cost. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted February 9, 2017 Does it already have a brake on it? Or is it non threaded? Im looking for a trashed barrel for some destructive testing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OfcrFek 21 Posted February 9, 2017 I don't know the maker, I don't even remember where I bought it. I believe I bought it the last time I was at Oak's from some random table. Regardless, it's a 20" fluted Hbar in .223 Wylde, target crowned that shoots groups from a lead sled of 2-3 FEET at 100 yards. I looked through the barrel and don't see any knicks, gouges, burrs, or dings, but at this point, I'm just frustrated and done with it. Was just curious what I could do with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatty 241 Posted February 9, 2017 god damn that's terrible! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shooter28 153 Posted February 9, 2017 I don't know the maker, I don't even remember where I bought it. I believe I bought it the last time I was at Oak's from some random table. Regardless, it's a 20" fluted Hbar in .223 Wylde, target crowned that shoots groups from a lead sled of 2-3 FEET at 100 yards. I looked through the barrel and don't see any knicks, gouges, burrs, or dings, but at this point, I'm just frustrated and done with it. Was just curious what I could do with it. Hang it up over your work bench as a reminder of what not to do in the future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted February 9, 2017 Spring's coming, tomato stake for the garden Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MidwestPX 172 Posted February 9, 2017 Turn it into a cane. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,927 Posted February 10, 2017 When you look through the barrel can you see any spiral shaped grooves? With "groups" that big it may be a smooth bore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DargZ 5 Posted February 10, 2017 Do you know the twist rate? What bullets are you using? Have you also checked your optics or your sights are tight? I have done that once where the optic was moving all over the place cause I forgot to torque it down to spec. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OfcrFek 21 Posted February 10, 2017 When you look through the barrel can you see any spiral shaped grooves? With "groups" that big it may be a smooth bore. I see the lands and grooves, they're there. If I remember when I get home, I'll post a pic. Kinda hard to see Do you know the twist rate? What bullets are you using? Have you also checked your optics or your sights are tight? I have done that once where the optic was moving all over the place cause I forgot to torque it down to spec. it's a 1x8, and I tried everything from PMC X-tac to Rem .223 to green tips. I thought the scope was the issue initially, but I switched both the mount (now a Burris PEPR) and the scope (now a Nikon Buckmaster 2), lapped the mount rings and blue locktite-d everything down, still getting garbage groups. I literally just put a new barrel on it this morning (a 18" stainless 1x8 twist match .223 wylde barrel that is guaranteed to shoot sub 1 moa, or my money back) and plan to go shoot it Sat morning before work to test it. Being that the barrel was essentially the last thing to try replacing, we shall see how it goes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted February 10, 2017 Was it new ? Contact the manufacturer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SW9racer 262 Posted February 11, 2017 Clam cannon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golf battery 1,223 Posted February 12, 2017 Tried iron sights to make sure its not either scope issues? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W2MC 1,699 Posted February 12, 2017 I don't know the maker, I don't even remember where I bought it. I believe I bought it the last time I was at Oak's from some random table..... I think we have found the problem... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 12, 2017 Scrap it for $.0573? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malice4you 627 Posted February 12, 2017 ...that shoots groups from a lead sled of 2-3 FEET at 100 yards... Wait, you're telling me that isn't good? My range neighbors always seem so impressed I can keep my targets clean (and reusable!) while showing off my accuracy on their targets. I'm told like all the time that I must be a sniper or mall ninja (don't get what a ninja has to do with guns, dumbasses don't know ninjas use swords?), but I'm always glad to show off my skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,757 Posted February 12, 2017 Clam cannon Uhh, do I WANT to know what a clam cannon is?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites