First Time Handgun Purchase

[BobTheBuilder 0]

Hello all,

 

I finally got my permit to purchase a handgun from the NJSP. I went in to my local gun dealer and picked a handgun to purchase. After all the paperwork at the counter, the salesperson then tells me that I have to be approved for purchase and that it might take a day or two. Is that a normal thing to happen? Who exactly has to approve my purchase? The state? They just took 4 months to aprove me just to approve me again 2 days after approving me. 

 

Any ideas?

 

Thank you! 

[JohnnyB 4,326]

Welcome to New Jersey! You must go through a NICS background check at the time of sale.

It's to make sure you did no evil, illegal things from the time you got the permit up to the time of the sale. NICS can take minutes or hours depending on how busy they are. 2 days is excessive!

[Pizza Bob 1,488]

NICS is a federal requirement. NJ is a POC state, meaning the NJSP administer the system and the FBI database is accessed by them rather than directly by the FFL.

Welcome to the world of gun ownership.

Adios,

Pizza Bob

[BobTheBuilder 0]

Thank you! And got it. They mentioned that the delay might be because I'm not a citizen, but still. I bought it on Tuesday so hopefully I'll be approved tomorrow.

[Maksim 1,504]

@remixer can chime in here but I believe, there was a delay between the holiday and the weather?  Generally NICS takes a few mins but at times can take a few days. 

[remixer 1,645]

yes currently running about 2 hours

Delay caused by Closure Monday and Weds.

 

[Zeke 5,504]

14 minutes ago, BobTheBuilder said:

Thank you! And got it. They mentioned that the delay might be because I'm not a citizen, but still. I bought it on Tuesday so hopefully I'll be approved tomorrow.

Wednesday was a state of emergency. No nics in joisey 

[remixer 1,645]

The were backed up from monday when weds hit.

 

Nics is not faster for Law enforcement . They do the same background check civilians do

 

[BobTheBuilder 0]

They probably should rename it to something else than "instant check". 

[Maksim 1,504]

3 minutes ago, BobTheBuilder said:

They probably should rename it to something else than "instant check". 

Generally it is though. And this is why you develop a relationship with a vendor who can let you know ahead of time or work with you not to waste your time. 

[BobTheBuilder 0]

So to my understanding, usually I could just walk in to the gun dealer and walk out with one the same day? Or they are usually backed up?

[Maksim 1,504]

40 minutes ago, BobTheBuilder said:

So to my understanding, usually I could just walk in to the gun dealer and walk out with one the same day? Or they are usually backed up?

Yes, usually walk in and done within an hour. 

[remixer 1,645]

10 hours ago, BobTheBuilder said:

They probably should rename it to something else than "instant check". 

Its Instantish

[njJoniGuy 2,131]

1 hour ago, remixer said:

Its Instantish

Sorta like the 30 day requirement for the PD to issue Firearm Purchaser ID cards and Pistol Purchase Permits.

[remixer 1,645]

On a positive note, I'v been receiving nics approvals since 6:15am this morning.  I have no Nics checks waiting...

They might be on time for a short while today.

[Rob0115 1,105]

Let’s be honest the NJ system is unsurprisingly shitty. You are calling the NJSP so they can call the FBI and get the approval.  Most other states go directly to the FBI and it is instant. Thanks to another governor Whitman eff up NJ is saddled with a crap system. 

[Pizza Bob 1,488]

5 hours ago, Rob0115 said:

Let’s be honest the NJ system is unsurprisingly shitty. You are calling the NJSP so they can call the FBI and get the approval.  Most other states go directly to the FBI and it is instant. Thanks to another governor Whitman eff up NJ is saddled with a crap system. 

We're not alone with this system. In fact PA is also a POC state, which is why there they call it "PICS". There are 13 POC states total. Not advocating or supporting this system, simply pointing out that NJ was not the originator, nor the only state that has to live with it.

Adios,

Pizza Bob

[Rob0115 1,105]

36 minutes ago, Pizza Bob said:

We're no alone with this system. In fact PA is also a POC state, which is why there they call it "PICS". There are 13 POC states total. Not advocating or supporting this system, simply pointing out that NJ was not the originator, nor the only state that has to live with it.

Adios,

Pizza Bob

NJ was given money for NICS modernization and spent it on other things during the CTW administration.  The system, here and in the other 13 states, adds no value and only delays my rights.  I really do get your point but I don’t take consolation in other places sucking too.