ChrisJM981 924 Posted September 27, 2019 9 hours ago, Maksim said: Ah. So is the flash hider unpinned on the on the Non-nfa? Correct. Not pinned. It came with the firearm. This firearm was 1300 with Cerakote (1000 without), 230 for the Holosun and 25 for the mount. I'll get a parts list together for my project build. I don't think I want to know how much I dropped on that one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EngineerJet 191 Posted September 27, 2019 14 hours ago, EngineerJet said: PSA Stripped Lower PSA 11.5" Lightweight w/ SBA3 Kit and pinned/welded A2 Magpul M-Lok VFG Holosun HS403B. For those who'd like a total cost break down (including shipping and taxes) PSA Upper w/ LPK and SBA3 - 444.62 PSA Lower - 52.24 Pin/Weld - 53.30 Magpul vertical grip - 19.83 Transfer + NICS - 30.00 (I transfered two lowers at once so I got a break on the fee and only paid NICS once) Total without optic - 599.99 Holosun - 139.68 Grand Total of $739.67 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golf battery 1,223 Posted September 27, 2019 What a deal. Why did you pin the brake though? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EngineerJet 191 Posted September 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, Golf battery said: What a deal. Why did you pin the brake though? Without the a2, the OAL would have been 25 7/8. No bueno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted September 27, 2019 5 hours ago, EngineerJet said: Without the a2, the OAL would have been 25 7/8. No bueno Why not pin a good break or comp instead? Makes a real difference with the guns and even playing with SBRs and "other firearms" in the same size... the brake/comp makes a HUGE difference in follow up shots and even recoil. It's like building a nice car and putting on the cheapest tires. =P Looks great though otherwise. =) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EngineerJet 191 Posted September 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Maksim said: Why not pin a good break or comp instead? Makes a real difference with the guns and even playing with SBRs and "other firearms" in the same size... the brake/comp makes a HUGE difference in follow up shots and even recoil. It's like building a nice car and putting on the cheapest tires. =P Looks great though otherwise. =) Again, I'm looking for flash mitigation. I've shot A2s before and they werent that bad. So I'll shoot it with an A2 for now. If I want to swap it out in the future, then atleast the A2 was included in the kit and I just pay for labor. If in the long run I want something else, i'll look into it. But it has to be pinned to be legal to own for the given barrel length. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted September 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, EngineerJet said: Again, I'm looking for flash mitigation. I've shot A2s before and they werent that bad. So I'll shoot it with an A2 for now. If I want to swap it out in the future, then atleast the A2 was included in the kit and I just pay for labor. If in the long run I want something else, i'll look into it. But it has to be pinned to be legal to own for the given barrel length. A2 is A2... and about $10... just figured would pin on something better. Yes, these do flow big flames... but unless you are shooting at night it is not a big deal during daytime. (yes if you are shooting an indoor range, BUT if you are shooting an AR-15 at an indoor range at 25 yards then I have other issues with you. ) Just the whole concept of pinning a brake right now is really silly to me just to save an inch and a half. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EngineerJet 191 Posted September 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Maksim said: A2 is A2... and about $10... just figured would pin on something better. Yes, these do flow big flames... but unless you are shooting at night it is not a big deal during daytime. (yes if you are shooting an indoor range, BUT if you are shooting an AR-15 at an indoor range at 25 yards then I have other issues with you. ) Just the whole concept of pinning a brake right now is really silly to me just to save an inch and a half. I agree having to pin anything is stupid. But it is required given that without the muzzle device im under 26. And since given the nature of its size, it would be a more likely candidate for home defense over my regular AR. For flash mitigation, the A2 is great bang for the buck. Since th is is a picture thread, heres another before people revolt. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samtechlan 23 Posted September 28, 2019 1 hour ago, EngineerJet said: I agree having to pin anything is stupid. But it is required given that without the muzzle device im under 26. And since given the nature of its size, it would be a more likely candidate for home defense over my regular AR. For flash mitigation, the A2 is great bang for the buck. Since th is is a picture thread, heres another before people revolt. Parts list for the 9mm and cost? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EngineerJet 191 Posted September 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, samtechlan said: Parts list for the 9mm and cost? 9mm Buffer and Spacer - 29.06 Charging handle + BCG - 105.93 Spikes Tactical 9mm Lower - 149.62 BCM vertical grip - 25.46 Z9 Stinger PDW Upper - 182.95 Transfer Fee - 30.00 PSA lower parts kit + SBA3 - 159.93 Magpul MBUS - 62.36 Pin/weld - 53.30 Total Cost - $798.61 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted September 28, 2019 FYI, You cant stick a pin in the adjustment part of the brace, making it "permanent". Punch out the retaining roll pin for the spring, the small plastic spring seat will fallout, cut an appropriate sized pin to fit in there, re-assemble. epoxy over the roll pin.. done. I threw a Daniel Defense Improved Fashhider on mine, Pretty sure its just an elongated A2. But it's ridiculously good for flash. It was also free for helping assemble a friends AR-15. https://danieldefense.com/daniel-defense-flash-suppressor-assembly.html If i had to buy one, my go to these days is the BCM comps mod 1 and 0. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EngineerJet 191 Posted September 28, 2019 Why would you want to pin the brace? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted September 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, EngineerJet said: Why would you want to pin the brace? Shorter barrel, no pin muzzle. Easily reversed, but technically permanent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nondisclosure 55 Posted October 2, 2019 Don’t mind the chest pubes on the bathroom floor. 26.75". Better than the Troy. @Blacksmythe it lives. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blacksmythe 71 Posted October 2, 2019 55 minutes ago, nondisclosure said: Don’t mind the chest pubes on the bathroom floor. 26.75". Better than the Troy. @Blacksmythe it lives. I know it is lol! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EngineerJet 191 Posted October 2, 2019 What kinda flash hider you got on that thing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blacksmythe 71 Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, EngineerJet said: What kinda flash hider you got on that thing Looks like a sure fire. That’s what I did. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nondisclosure 55 Posted October 2, 2019 6 hours ago, EngineerJet said: What kinda flash hider you got on that thing 6 hours ago, Blacksmythe said: Looks like a sure fire. That’s what I did. Yep! its a surefire pinned and welded Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrentonShooter 22 Posted October 2, 2019 On 9/13/2019 at 10:48 AM, EngineerJet said: Z9 Stinger PDW 9mm Upper 10.5" with pinned and welded flash can for overall 27" Spikes Tactical 9mm Lower 9MM Buffer with Spacer United Defense Labs 9mm BCG SBA3 Brace and LPK from PSA BCM VFG Magpul MBUS After all said and done came out to little over $800 I want to build a 9mm “other firearm”. What lower parts kit did you use? Do you need a different kit for 9mm ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EngineerJet 191 Posted October 3, 2019 its the same exact lower parts kit. I bought it as a kit with the SBA3 Brace from PSA. I highly recommend the Spikes Tactical lower. Something to note specifically with the 9mm builds. you should get a 9mm buffer and spacer or you will run into broken bolt catch. If you have any more questions feel free to message me 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NEHackettstown 21 Posted October 3, 2019 Troy A4 "Other Firearm". Just changed a few things. I used parts that I had saved for another build. Cerakote - Tungsten and Black Graphite by Easton Firearms Refinishing Seekins Precision DNA Charging handle. Phase 5 Tactical Extended Bolt Release and Ambi Safety Magpul K2+ Grip Holosun 503GU-GR Elite sight 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shooter28 153 Posted October 10, 2019 On 10/3/2019 at 6:14 PM, NEHackettstown said: Troy A4 "Other Firearm". Just changed a few things. I used parts that I had saved for another build. Cerakote - Tungsten and Black Graphite by Easton Firearms Refinishing Seekins Precision DNA Charging handle. Phase 5 Tactical Extended Bolt Release and Ambi Safety Magpul K2+ Grip Holosun 503GU-GR Elite sight How do you like the green reticle? Been thinking about getting one for my build but I have never used one so Im hesitant Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NEHackettstown 21 Posted October 10, 2019 You won't regret it. I've had really good luck with Holosun products. I have the HS510 with the red dot but I really like the green reticle a lot more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shooter28 153 Posted October 10, 2019 Yea I really like the Holosun stuff too. No problems picking up the reticle with differing backdrops? In the ways of ARFCOM, maybe Ill get both! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NEHackettstown 21 Posted October 10, 2019 No problems at all. The brightness adjustments work really well especially when shooting outdoors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrentonShooter 22 Posted October 11, 2019 On 10/2/2019 at 8:21 PM, EngineerJet said: its the same exact lower parts kit. I bought it as a kit with the SBA3 Brace from PSA. I highly recommend the Spikes Tactical lower. Something to note specifically with the 9mm builds. you should get a 9mm buffer and spacer or you will run into broken bolt catch. If you have any more questions feel free to message me If I take a 10.5 inch barrel and a muzzle device to a ffl or gunsmith here in NJ to get pinned and welded, do you think they would do it or give me problems ? I’m good with building the lower but the upper I might want to get someone to assemble it for me, especially to pin and weld it and maybe cerakote it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EngineerJet 191 Posted October 11, 2019 35 minutes ago, TrentonShooter said: If I take a 10.5 inch barrel and a muzzle device to a ffl or gunsmith here in NJ to get pinned and welded, do you think they would do it or give me problems ? I’m good with building the lower but the upper I might want to get someone to assemble it for me, especially to pin and weld it and maybe cerakote it. tier 1 defense in union will pin and weld it for ya. Aside from that, what else do you need help with assembling on the upper? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vicious 138 Posted October 12, 2019 7 hours ago, EngineerJet said: tier 1 defense in union will pin and weld it for ya. Aside from that, what else do you need help with assembling on the upper? Totally confused, can I assemble this myself? I thought the NJSP letter said it was a no go. Or is it just a proceed at your own risk thing? If I have to go through a FFL, any recommendation for shops that will assemble an other with provided parts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blacksmythe 71 Posted October 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Vicious said: Totally confused, can I assemble this myself? I thought the NJSP letter said it was a no go. Or is it just a proceed at your own risk thing? If I have to go through a FFL, any recommendation for shops that will assemble an other with provided parts? If that’s an issue just buy one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrentonShooter 22 Posted October 12, 2019 21 hours ago, EngineerJet said: tier 1 defense in union will pin and weld it for ya. Aside from that, what else do you need help with assembling on the upper? Ok I will try them. I just want them to assemble the upper. The last one I assembled I had a bit of a hard time with it and ended up taking it to a gunsmith anyways Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites