weekend_junkie 129 Posted February 19, 2016 http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2016/Bills/A3000/2955_I1.HTM I understand this is currently in front of NJ Senator Linda Greenstein and that it would be up to her to allow this to have a hearing. Call her office at 609.395.9911 and politely request that it gets its fair chance! The safety training requirements are a clear benefit to public safety and all the current CCW holders, how could they say no! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
intercooler 41 Posted February 19, 2016 not a dem bill...no chance in hell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted February 19, 2016 The safety training requirements are a clear benefit to public safety and all the current CCW holders, how could they say no! Because Sweeney has already publicly stated " Not on his watch!". He needs the other Dems to be the next Governor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weekend_junkie 129 Posted February 20, 2016 I can see the headline now... NJ DEMS BLOCK BILL REQUIRING GUN SAFETY TRAINING! At the least, we should all call and thank the Repub legislators for moving this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,325 Posted February 20, 2016 What we need is a viable pro 2A candidate to run for Governor in the next election cycle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jm1827 284 Posted February 20, 2016 What we need is a viable pro 2A candidate to run for Governor in the next election cycle. Ya think? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PD2K 115 Posted February 20, 2016 Where's the next NJ Republican superstar hiding??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mustang69 505 Posted February 20, 2016 Unfortunately I don't see a ® getting elected again any time soon - at least not this next election. There just isn't anyone working for it. Maybe Kean because of his name recognition. The only reason Christie got it was because Corzine was so bad he lost Dem support, and Christie had effectively been campaigning for it since he became USAG. He was happy to be seen as a corruption-buster to get elected, but since he got elected it's "See No Evil" anywhere. I hate to be negative, but I just don't see us getting anywhere with 2a issues at the state level. The only thing a politician cares about is votes, and someone Pro-2a in NJ would lose more votes than they gained since they'd be hammered with it throughout the campaign. And the chances someone would run as an anti and then turn pro after the election is remote. Yes, with the level of voter participation we could mathematically win as has been shown by others on the forum, but the 2a just doesn't bring voters to the booth. The legislature would need to swing R for there to be a chance, and the districts are too gerrymandered for that to happen - blame both parties for that one. I wish I saw a way forward but the only thing I can see that will work is an exit strategy. The path to greater 2a recognition in NJ is at the Fed level. With Scalia's death I'm honestly concerned with the future direction of the court - for a lot more issues than just the 2a. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Willett 70 Posted February 21, 2016 not a dem bill...no chance in hell Just to note, the sponsors are Democrats Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barms 98 Posted February 23, 2016 Stupid question here. Do you think that pretty much ALL people that will vote Democrat are so anti 2A? I mean like what is stronger in the Democratic John Doe? Do they hate guns more than that hate republicans? What I mean is it says above "a republican running wooiks get blasted by Anti 2a in the state" Do you think people hate guns in Nj more than they hate anything else? Bernie sanders is a demo and not anti 2a Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 23, 2016 Stupid question here. Do you think that pretty much ALL people that will vote Democrat are so anti 2A? I mean like what is stronger in the Democratic John Doe? Do they hate guns more than that hate republicans? What I mean is it says above "a republican running wooiks get blasted by Anti 2a in the state" Do you think people hate guns in Nj more than they hate anything else? Bernie sanders is a demo and not anti 2a Not all dems are anti 2aThe ones that are , well they are a special kind of stupid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted February 23, 2016 Stupid question here. Do you think that pretty much ALL people that will vote Democrat are so anti 2A? I mean like what is stronger in the Democratic John Doe? Do they hate guns more than that hate republicans? What I mean is it says above "a republican running wooiks get blasted by Anti 2a in the state" Do you think people hate guns in Nj more than they hate anything else? Bernie sanders is a demo and not anti 2a He's not????? http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_Sanders_Gun_Control.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 23, 2016 He's not????? http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_Sanders_Gun_Control.htm It could be argued, from your info, he is less anti than HC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mustang69 505 Posted February 23, 2016 The rabid anti-2a are all dems, but not all dems are rabid anti-2a. Several folks I shoot with are Dems. The 2a doesn't seem to be an issue for them when it comes to pulling the lever. Makes for some "interesting" conversations. They don't believe the dems will follow through with any of the confiscation nonsense and have no problem with "common sense" changes since all they do is blow holes in paper and would never consider ccw. Head in the sand types. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted February 23, 2016 It could be argued, from your info, he is less anti than HC. I would agree with that sentiment. But less sucky doesn't equal good Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 23, 2016 I would agree with that sentiment. But less sucky doesn't equal good True. I think that's what the dems were trying to figure in Nevada. Did you see the turn out numbers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane45 807 Posted February 23, 2016 Although I find it nearly impossible to put insane thoughts in a sane head, I have to theorize that unless your a true libtard democrat, the vast majority of more "normal" democrats may just be writing this election off and tuning out? Of the few Dem's I know, after a million I told ya so's for voting for Obama, are voting Republican next election. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,434 Posted February 23, 2016 It could be argued, from your info, he is less anti than HC. That's like being less pregnant. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 23, 2016 Although I find it nearly impossible to put insane thoughts in a sane head, I have to theorize that unless your a true libtard democrat, the vast majority of more "normal" democrats may just be writing this election off and tuning out? Of the few Dem's I know, after a million I told ya so's for voting for Obama, are voting Republican next election. I know of an individual that held a fundraiser for Slick willy. I'm not sure if he/she is even gonna vote.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 23, 2016 That's like being less pregnant. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I think it's less preggers now. But you very correct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gleninjersey 2,141 Posted February 24, 2016 It could be argued, from your info, he is less anti than HC.He's just as bad. I'll have to find the video but he says something to the extent that nobody needs ARs or semi-auto handguns. He then says something like hunting rifles and shotguns are okay. Almost in next breath he adds he would like to get rid of any gun that can kill a human being. Mmmmmm.....okay. That woukd be ANY gun. ALL of them. Will see if I can find video later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites