HuntingPaper 62 Posted June 20, 2022 Hello, I was wondering if someone here has used a coupler like this and what do you think of it. Thank you in advance for your response https://crossarmory.com/shop/double-stack-magpul-pmag-10-gen-3/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted June 20, 2022 https://www.rjkventures.com/products/ar15-m4-m16-mag-coupler I use these with my PMag 10's - works great. Also a lot cheaper than the Cross ones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuntingPaper 62 Posted June 20, 2022 Thank you Nick! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gleninjersey 2,141 Posted June 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, Krdshrk said: https://www.rjkventures.com/products/ar15-m4-m16-mag-coupler I use these with my PMag 10's - works great. Also a lot cheaper than the Cross ones. I have a couple of these as well. Really like them. Need to order a few more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted June 20, 2022 41 minutes ago, HuntingPaper said: Thank you Nick! No prob. I use them a bunch and it's solid - save you a few bucks too 33 minutes ago, gleninjersey said: I have a couple of these as well. Really like them. Need to order a few more. Yep - Get at least a 3 pack! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,264 Posted June 20, 2022 is it actually easier/quicker to swap mags with these than just dropping the one outta the well as ya grab the fresh mag and load it in? seems to me it'd be slower with having to pull it out, flip it, then load it in...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted June 20, 2022 55 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said: is it actually easier/quicker to swap mags with these than just dropping the one outta the well as ya grab the fresh mag and load it in? seems to me it'd be slower with having to pull it out, flip it, then load it in...... It's not just that - most mag pouches don't hold 10 round mags easily - they're built for 30's. With 2 PMAG 10's coupled together, they fit perfect in 30 round mag pouches so you can index and grab easily. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJM981 924 Posted June 20, 2022 17 hours ago, Krdshrk said: https://www.rjkventures.com/products/ar15-m4-m16-mag-coupler I use these with my PMag 10's - works great. Also a lot cheaper than the Cross ones. I have those as well. They're great for using in mag pouches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tunaman 552 Posted June 22, 2022 Is everyone confidant that an overzealous cop or prosecutor wouldnt classify your mag as one 20 rounder? I would not like to be the test case. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,922 Posted June 22, 2022 58 minutes ago, Tunaman said: Is everyone confidant that an overzealous cop or prosecutor wouldnt classify your mag as one 20 rounder? I would not like to be the test case. The key word in the statute is "continuously." As you have to remove the mag, rotate it and then re-insert it, there is no way anyone of sound mind could think that this meets that requirement. I have always had my doubts about the statute anyway. How can anything be "continuously" fed into a semi-automatic? That would be a harder sell, and I don't have the funds to be a test case. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,156 Posted June 22, 2022 45 minutes ago, Tunaman said: I would not like to be the test case. Nobody wants to be a test case, but, because of NJs intentionally ambiguous laws, every case seems to be a potential test case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,778 Posted June 22, 2022 Do they make these for handguns? Asking for an out-of-state friend... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FairbanksRusty 64 Posted June 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr.Stu said: I have always had my doubts about the statute anyway. How can anything be "continuously" fed into a semi-automatic? That would be a harder sell, and I don't have the funds to be a test case. “Continuous” was language first added to New York’s SAFE Act in 2013. Its intent was to close the door on belt-fed semi-auto’s like AR15’s and 1919’s. Yes, such things exist What happens elsewhere finds its way here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,922 Posted June 22, 2022 Just now, FairbanksRusty said: “Continuous” was language first added to New York’s SAFE Act in 2013. Its intent was to close the door on belt-fed semi-auto’s like AR15’s and 1919’s. Yes, such things exist What happens elsewhere finds its way here. The definition in NJ predates 2013 by a long way. They updated it a to make it worse, but even when it was 15 rounds it still included the underlined text Quote 2C:39-1 Definitions. 2C:39-1. Definitions. The following definitions apply to this chapter and to chapter 58: y. "Large capacity ammunition magazine" means a box, drum, tube or other container which is capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition to be fed continuously and directly therefrom into a semi-automatic firearm. The term shall not include an attached tubular device which is capable of holding only .22 caliber rimfire ammunition. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted June 22, 2022 The "Continuously" language is actually part of what Nappen used to get Brian Aitken's mag charge overturned. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJM981 924 Posted June 22, 2022 11 hours ago, Tunaman said: Is everyone confidant that an overzealous cop or prosecutor wouldnt classify your mag as one 20 rounder? I would not like to be the test case. Those people need to trip into a wood chipper. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheflife15 455 Posted December 9, 2023 Bumping, these still nj legal? Target sports won't ship them to me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuntingPaper 62 Posted December 10, 2023 Still legal. I saw some for sale at RTSP Union 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted December 10, 2023 Order direct https://www.rjkventures.com/products/ar15-m4-m16-mag-coupler 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,326 Posted December 10, 2023 5 hours ago, Cheflife15 said: Bumping, these still nj legal? Target sports won't ship them to me! I found the design files to 3-D print these couplers. I will try it out. I need to order some black PLA first. These are for Magpul. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,326 Posted December 10, 2023 The printing material, PLA+ I ordered is extremely strong and coming in tomorrow morning. I will try it out when I get a chance and post back the results with photos. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shocker 151 Posted December 10, 2023 I have a bunch of those RK couplers, they’re ABS. I’m curious how you make out with PLA+ my guess is they wouldn’t survive being dropped but you could beef up the sides where they catch the groove on the mag body Did they recommend to print standing up on its end or anything? Thats how I would do it anyway Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,326 Posted December 10, 2023 5 hours ago, Shocker said: I have a bunch of those RK couplers, they’re ABS. I’m curious how you make out with PLA+ my guess is they wouldn’t survive being dropped but you could beef up the sides where they catch the groove on the mag body Did they recommend to print standing up on its end or anything? Thats how I would do it anyway I use Overture Professional. Stronger than the usual PLA+. Yes I printed it standing up. It came out great! 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheflife15 455 Posted December 19, 2023 What's everyone's opinion on these? Personally I like them. I'm a little concerned with the bottom mag being exposed, but I guess it only really becomes a problem if I'm crawling in the dirt. I might throw some in the go bag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,326 Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Cheflife15 said: What's everyone's opinion on these? Personally I like them. I'm a little concerned with the bottom mag being exposed, but I guess it only really becomes a problem if I'm crawling in the dirt. I might throw some in the go bag. were you able to get some yet? If not, I would be happy to print a few for you. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Cheflife15 said: What's everyone's opinion on these? Personally I like them. I'm a little concerned with the bottom mag being exposed, but I guess it only really becomes a problem if I'm crawling in the dirt. I might throw some in the go bag. They work well. I have seen the first round start bouncing out on the bottom mag but then again I was using it in the Extar so it's got some downward kick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheflife15 455 Posted December 19, 2023 9 hours ago, JohnnyB said: were you able to get some yet? If not, I would be happy to print a few for you. I got some, haven't shot them yet though! Conceptually I like them, but we'll see if that carries over into usage. 9 hours ago, Krdshrk said: They work well. I have seen the first round start bouncing out on the bottom mag but then again I was using it in the Extar so it's got some downward kick. I think I'll get annoyed if this happens. I'm going to hopefully try it out soon. I'm nervous the RSOS at rtsp will complain about them so I'm waiting for a day to go to obrpc.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted December 20, 2023 11 hours ago, Cheflife15 said: I got some, haven't shot them yet though! Conceptually I like them, but we'll see if that carries over into usage. I think I'll get annoyed if this happens. I'm going to hopefully try it out soon. I'm nervous the RSOS at rtsp will complain about them so I'm waiting for a day to go to obrpc.. Hasn't happened with any other of my ARs I've used it in... Just the concussion indoors with the Extar and the way the brake pushes the muzzle down hits it just right I guess. I've used it at Recoil, GFH, and Union Hill and no RSO's have said a peep - not sure why RTSP would. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuntingPaper 62 Posted December 20, 2023 12 hours ago, Cheflife15 said: I got some, haven't shot them yet though! Conceptually I like them, but we'll see if that carries over into usage. I think I'll get annoyed if this happens. I'm going to hopefully try it out soon. I'm nervous the RSOS at rtsp will complain about them so I'm waiting for a day to go to obrpc.. I don’t think the RSO’s at RTSP will complain since they sell those adapters at their store. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon K 32 Posted December 20, 2023 On 12/18/2023 at 11:08 PM, JohnnyB said: were you able to get some yet? If not, I would be happy to print a few for you. Are you concerned that your making parts for a firearm (isn't the magazine considered part of the firearm in NJ)? What are the NJ legal consequences? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites