marlintag 223 Posted December 20, 2022 I have done all can I do. I emailed Assemblyman and Senators, emailed all of my connections, I joined ANJRPC and donated to FPC, and a "few more things" I cannot mention on this forum. God have mercy on us all. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,750 Posted December 20, 2022 Good. Keep doing that. Stay in the fight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,877 Posted December 20, 2022 3 hours ago, DirtyDigz said: "Dear Moms: The Gun Free School Zone act made all schools 'sensitive places'. 100% of school shootings take place in Gun Free School Zones. What makes you think this law will more than 0% effective?" If I was still a reporter that's the question I would have asked them. But asking questions like that is why I'm not a reporter any more. 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,778 Posted December 20, 2022 11 hours ago, 45Doll said: "Dear Moms: The Gun Free School Zone act made all schools 'sensitive places'. 100% of school shootings take place in Gun Free School Zones. What makes you think this law will more than 0% effective?" Signs work, bro! Students, adult bring 3 guns to chaotic NJ school fight, cops say (nj1015.com) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,778 Posted December 20, 2022 The NJ State Senate passes controversial concealed handgun bill (nj1015.com) "State Sen. Tony Bucco, R-Morris, said the legislation lacks common sense because it requires right-to-carry permit holders to get a special type of insurance that is not offered yet by any insurance company. State Senator Ed Durr, R-Gloucester, said the bill denies domestic violence victims the right to defend themselves, and he believes voting in favor of it is a violation of the oath taken by state senators in New Jersey." ------ I'm adding them to my Christmas card list. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fred2 367 Posted December 20, 2022 Just a thought, but would this bill have made the floor if Sweeney and not Durr was a Senator? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,778 Posted December 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, Fred2 said: Just a thought, but would this bill have made the floor if Sweeney and not Durr was a Senator? Yes. This was "their" doomsday scenario. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EngineerJet 191 Posted December 20, 2022 Imagine if Murphy lost, which he almost did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YankeeSC 1,204 Posted December 20, 2022 Congrats! You'll all (y'all) be much safer now! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadioGunner 218 Posted December 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Fred2 said: Just a thought, but would this bill have made the floor if Sweeney and not Durr was a Senator? Yes. Why do you think otherwise? Sweeney became increasingly anti gun toward the bitter end. Even moreso when the recall took place (and failed) and when protesters showed up at his house. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Tunaman 549 Posted December 20, 2022 2 hours ago, CMJeepster said: Signs work, bro! Students, adult bring 3 guns to chaotic NJ school fight, cops say (nj1015.com) Read the end of that article. This is the reason these motherfuckers have no fear of getting caught. "Valdez will seek PRETRIAL DETENTION". What ever happened to the Graves Act that says 3-5 years AUTOMATIC for crime with a gun? Fuck these prosecutors. I hope they wallow in their own shit...which is happening right now. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,325 Posted December 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, Tunaman said: Read the end of that article. This is the reason these motherfuckers have no fear of getting caught. "Valdez will seek PRETRIAL DETENTION". What ever happened to the Graves Act that says 3-5 years AUTOMATIC for crime with a gun? Fuck these prosecutors. I hope they wallow in their own shit...which is happening right now. The Graves Act is only used when good people like Shaneen Allen make a dumb mistake! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fred2 367 Posted December 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, samiam said: Sweeney was a major RINO and getting worse over the years. He was playing nice with the Norcrosses for crying out loud. Politicians only care about themselves. He may have thought that flipping the bird the the Supreme Court is a bridge too far. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tunaman 549 Posted December 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, JohnnyB said: The Graves Act is only used when good people like Shaneen Allen makes a dumb mistake! you are correct. As the Asshole senator said..."this bill is only for the Law Abiding Citizens". 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tunaman 549 Posted December 20, 2022 The bill also has an entire list of State Hires that need NO permit...only a "card" from the Superintendent". We pay thes assholes salary and they make laws to exempt only themselves. I hope they get their asses sued for violating peoples constitutional rights. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigGuns 262 Posted December 20, 2022 How many counties will slow walk the permit process even more, once Murphy signs the bill? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigGuns 262 Posted December 20, 2022 18 hours ago, 10X said: With the language of the bill now finalized, the request for an injunction should be ready to file the minute Murphy signs it. If I remember correctly, didn't Clarence Thomas in the Bruen decision state there was some legality in letting states decide sensitive areas? But he didn't define exactly where. So, the states decided to just go for the fence, and go for broke. Then the courts, with the injunction, might remove a few and a compromise will be worked out, leaving most areas still sensitive. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,922 Posted December 20, 2022 1 hour ago, samiam said: Sweeney was a major RINO and getting worse over the years. He was playing nice with the Norcrosses for crying out loud. Sweeney didn't run under the R banner. He was a Dem through and through. So not a RINO at all. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,264 Posted December 20, 2022 1 hour ago, BigGuns said: If I remember correctly, didn't Clarence Thomas in the Bruen decision state there was some legality in letting states decide sensitive areas? But he didn't define exactly where. So, the states decided to just go for the fence, and go for broke. Then the courts, with the injunction, might remove a few and a compromise will be worked out, leaving most areas still sensitive. i'd be more concerned with the other stuff than this for now....like the insurance requirement, added cost and training. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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xXxplosive 824 Posted December 20, 2022 Who the F would ever elect a business agent for the Iron workers to anything......can you spell the word Corruption. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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BigGuns 262 Posted December 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, samiam said: We therefore can assume it settled that these locations were “sensitive places” where arms carrying could be prohibited consistent with the Second Amendment. And courts can use analogies to those historical regulations of “sensitive places” to determine that modern regulations prohibiting the carry of firearms in new and analogous sensitive places are constitutionally permissible. He opened the door a crack, and the Democrats kicked it full open. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Walkinguf61 40 Posted December 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Tunaman said: The bill also has an entire list of State Hires that need NO permit...only a "card" from the Superintendent". We pay thes assholes salary and they make laws to exempt only themselves. I hope they get their asses sued for violating peoples constitutional rights. Who are you calling an asshole? You make it appear you are calling people like correction officers and other LE assholes who have nothing to do with this law. “ We pay [your] salary “BS I can respond to now that I am retired. I am more than happy to give people their twenty five cents back if it means they all have to shut up. Just because some professions can carry doesn’t mean you should take it out on them . It has the opposite effect of what you want. I’m immune to most of this BS and carry without a NJ permit in NJ. And I still send money to the fight against these laws in NJ. Talk like that makes me want to take my ball and go home. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tunaman 549 Posted December 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, Walkinguf61 said: Who are you calling an asshole? You make it appear you are calling people like correction officers and other LE assholes who have nothing to do with this law. “ We pay [your] salary “BS I can respond to now that I am retired. I am more than happy to give people their twenty five cents back if it means they all have to shut up. Just because some professions can carry doesn’t mean you should take it out on them . It has the opposite effect of what you want. I’m immune to most of this BS and carry without a NJ permit in NJ. And I still send money to the fight against these laws in NJ. Talk like that makes me want to take my ball and go home. Specifically the Senators and assemblymen who wrote and voted for this bill. This bill was also endorsed by the State PBA so I call them out too. A little reading comprehension goes a long way. If you didnt write it or support it then I still support you. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moutinas 59 Posted December 20, 2022 3 hours ago, 1LtCAP said: i'd be more concerned with the other stuff than this for now....like the insurance requirement, added cost and training. The insurance is moot if you can't carry anywhere. The whole purpose of a carry permit is to carry and this bill removes your ability to carry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b47356 21 Posted December 21, 2022 7 hours ago, samiam said: Sweeney was a major |strikeout: "RINO"; replace with "pandering political hypocrite"| and getting worse over the years. He was playing nice with the Norcrosses for crying out loud. Err, what? When did we start calling democrats RINOs? Why wouldn't a democrat play nice with.. another democrat? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites