JT Custom Guns 957 Posted October 22, 2017 They both shoot about the same, except the mossy has a hand strap which some like and some don't....... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted October 22, 2017 17 minutes ago, JT Custom Guns said: They both shoot about the same, except the mossy has a hand strap which some like and some don't....... 4 screws will take the strap off luckily. personally I wish the strap was tighter so it felt like it was helping hold the firearm in my hand. Has me thinking that some kind of molded "glove" deal or maybe 4 finger holes affixed to the guard would be a neat idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,664 Posted October 22, 2017 Word of caution with short barreled weapons - it’s easy get your hand in front of the muzzle. Especially on a weapon that has a manual action that works like pump shotgun. The strap is there for a very good reason, I wouldn’t cut it off. If you have the Remington version, do yourself a favor and get a hand stop. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stuckinNJ 81 Posted October 22, 2017 2 hours ago, PK90 said: 2 hours ago, stuckinNJ said: If we’re allowed Firearms now, can we build 10.5” AR with a long brace (PDW?) and pin the brake to achieve over 26”? Would this be legal? IMO, yes. But you only gain a 4" shorter firearm than a rifle, so why? So I can pretend I have an AR pistol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted October 22, 2017 Finger holes in the fore end sound like an invitation to injury. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted October 22, 2017 4 hours ago, fatty said: I asked ant So If I walked in with a shockwave I will be asked to leave? Why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,664 Posted October 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, Ray Ray said: So If I walked in with a shockwave I will be asked to leave? Why? Probably not to leave, but not to shoot that weapon. You seriously don’t see an issue shooting one of these indoors? I envision a lot of pellets going where they aren’t supposed to and a lot of hurt wrists, noses, eyes, and cheeks. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,155 Posted October 22, 2017 1 hour ago, High Exposure said: Word of caution with short barreled weapons - it’s easy get your hand in front of the muzzle. Especially on a weapon that has a manual action that works like pump shotgun. The strap is there for a very good reason, I wouldn’t cut it off. If you have the Remington version, do yourself a favor and get a hand stop. I was thinking if I got a Shockwave that I'd replace the strap with a hand stop. Overall, I like the Shockwave more than the Remmy but I think Remington was smart to go with a Magpul fore end. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted October 22, 2017 what's the over/under on which one has some d00d who shoots off his finger(s) first? I'm betting Remington draws first blood months before the Mossberg. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatty 241 Posted October 22, 2017 55 minutes ago, Ray Ray said: So If I walked in with a shockwave I will be asked to leave? Why? Lol yes you'll be dragged out by those in red polos Maybe some ranges would allow it? Couldn't imagine anyone that would though When I was texas 2 months ago the indoor range I took my boss to had private lanes with almost no restrictions and no time limit for 1 flat fee. Wish we had that. Rentals and ammo were dirt cheap too. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT Custom Guns 957 Posted October 22, 2017 1 hour ago, High Exposure said: Word of caution with short barreled weapons - it’s easy get your hand in front of the muzzle. Especially on a weapon that has a manual action that works like pump shotgun. The strap is there for a very good reason, I wouldn’t cut it off. If you have the Remington version, do yourself a favor and get a hand stop. Totally agree - Good Advice! The strap on the Mossy can be shortened for a tighter grip; just be careful to reattach the screws properly to avoid a future failure.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted October 22, 2017 so does one of these take down like a 590? for cleaning? also wondering if the birds head grip could be weighted down for better balance, or if it'd matter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted October 22, 2017 2 hours ago, stuckinNJ said: So I can pretend I have an AR pistol There are NJ Legal ones.... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted October 22, 2017 3 hours ago, High Exposure said: Probably not to leave, but not to shoot that weapon. You seriously don’t see an issue shooting one of these indoors? I envision a lot of pellets going where they aren’t supposed to and a lot of hurt wrists, noses, eyes, and cheeks. I stand corrected, as indoor ranges up here tend to attract questionable shooters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sota 1,191 Posted October 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ray Ray said: I stand corrected, as indoor ranges up here tend to attract questionable shooters. Tell me about it. You NEVER went to Ray's on the weekends. Every other car had NY plates, and they were shooting up the walls and ceilings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted October 22, 2017 Re: GFH. Anthony has always limited certain shotgun ammo. From day one, no birdshot has been the biggest no no. But people do not listen and if caught, say by by. You use to see scatter on the ceilings. If you look at the hooks for the targets, they are partially cardboard with clips to hold them. They are replaced regularly because people pepper them too. So, can you really imagine some fruit-loop with a Shockwave? The ROs are excellent. But I wouldn’t want to find out the hard way.No matter how good a range or its people are, some idiot always seems to get through, as proof with the last deadly incident that ranges get stuck dealing with. The hand is quicker than the eye! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatty 241 Posted October 22, 2017 It was nice back when GFH allowed golden tiger in 7.62x39 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ECsandstar 28 Posted October 23, 2017 7 hours ago, Zeke said: I think it’s less to do with practice and more to do with winning In what regard? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted October 23, 2017 3 hours ago, sota said: Tell me about it. You NEVER went to Ray's on the weekends. Every other car had NY plates, and they were shooting up the walls and ceilings. Bullet hole has the same issues. Yeah, it's an outdoor only gun. Kinda like ARs and AKs should be too. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smokin .50 1,907 Posted October 23, 2017 The biggest issue I have with these new scatterguns is folks get so enthralled in the "Wow Factor" they don't bother warming-up with low brass and instead go straight to high brass. So SOME common sense is thrown out the window, and injuries will result (as H.E. stated). Not everybody is used to shooting a 12 ga. strong hand only like I am. A 3 Dram load is my "comfort limit", but I have no trouble with 3 1/4 Dram with my Winchester Featherweight pump. I think it a bit foolish to do buckshot or MAX DRAM 1 oz foster slugs with just strong hand OR with two sweaty hand(s) let alone one. Hickock 45 put grip tape on his for better control and he has YUGE bear paws for hands to begin with! I foresee a YUGE market in used Shockwaves in a few months. Some will even be in unfired condition due to range restrictions mentioned above^^^. If you aren't practiced being comfortable shooting a 12 ga. pump strong hand only I would seriously consider shooting a friends or renting one before plunking down $400 for a curiosity piece. That's IF you can find a private club that will allow it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted October 23, 2017 I’ll have mine today. I’ll have it at the range this week. I’ll give my opinion on itSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CageFighter 236 Posted October 23, 2017 ...searching on GB, i should have one shortly! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,155 Posted October 23, 2017 48 minutes ago, CageFighter said: ...searching on GB, i should have one shortly! PK90 has one for sale. I'm seriously considering one for myself but will wait to see one in real life at the next shootout Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ECsandstar 28 Posted October 23, 2017 I have not had a chance to shoot mine yet. Its eating me up. We need a "Shockwave meet" or a "Super-duper Shockwave Shootout" 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CageFighter 236 Posted October 24, 2017 17 hours ago, ECsandstar said: I have not had a chance to shoot mine yet. Its eating me up. We need a "Shockwave meet" or a "Super-duper Shockwave Shootout" u mean ShockWave & Tac14 shootout. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stuckinNJ 81 Posted October 24, 2017 In terms of the recent definition of "firearm" legality, would the following build be legal (if the brake and brace were pinned and the mag was a 15 rounder)? A lot of NJers in the comment section wondering,too. Do braces even need to be pinned? Any rulings on those? Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted October 24, 2017 Nov 5 is a bad date. Right before pheasant opener. Jus saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted October 24, 2017 Later then? November 11 or 12? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted October 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, Krdshrk said: Later then? November 11 or 12? Call it.. I got my card renewed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fishnut 2,358 Posted October 24, 2017 Nov 11 is opening day of pheasant season. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites