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I think it's more than "Gun rights advocates" who should question the effectiveness of the new order. It's "anyone who's not high on weed" who should question the effectiveness of the new order.

Also, Governor Overbite.

So if we know that the guns being used in crime aren't being purchased in New Jersey, why exactly do we need more/stricter gun laws in this state? Edit: Rhetorical question alert.

Great video You can skip to 4:39 if you want to get to the Truth.

I used to shop there. Got my first AR from him. When I realized how anti 2A and anti CCW he is, I vowed to NEVER give him another red cent of my money! You can say that again Ray!

Where are you located? Everything but the lower can be delivered directly to your home. Just the lower needs to be purchased from an FFL. I still recommend the complete Troy upper for $450 at Primary Arms I linked to above. I’ve been doing this for a minute or two and that is by far the best value for the dollar out there. If you assembled that upper yourself, you would be in for well over $1000.

It doesn't make sense to worry about whether the guns are imported or not, as long as NJ remains so very, very good at producing criminals domestically.

Is this a statement or a question? If it’s a statement, I have a giant problem with this. Although it would make my job far easier, it is flat against everything I stand for and believe in. Just throw probably cause and reasonable articulable suspicion out the window and arrest on “maybe”. Wow....

They're going to publish crime data. So what, compared to the other stuff coming down the pike at us. Wait until they notice that it's all in Camden, Paterson, Trenton and Newark, all run by Democrats. Publish the race and voting record of all criminals arrested.

Governor Soundbyte.

He wouldn’t show up

https://articles.nj.com/union/index.ssf/2018/04/3_guns_stolen_from_elizabeth_municipal_judge_richa.amp I’m sure charges will be filed against the judge for illegal possession. Oh wait.

Compliant ARs suck, build your own

Freedom Ammo in Mantua sells lowers and lots more! 10% off if you recite the Pledge of Allegiance before you pay! The owner, Glenn is a great guy and is the former CLEO for Woodbury Heights PD. VERY PRO 2A STORE! Good luck!

He should make it accessible to the public each time a prosecutor reduces or throws out a gun charge used during the commission of a crime to get a plea bargain to lesser crime. You know, to show who they are "tough on gun laws".

LMAO

Except it is. http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2017/04/every_gun_violence_incident_in_2015_on_a_single_ma.html

Let me make it easy for you.

He's looking at guns coming from places where it's easier to purchase and carry that are brought to a state where it's almost impossible to purchase and carry to commit crimes on people in this state where we can't carry because its easier to shot at us because we can't carry and the states they are coming from can carry. I'm exhausted.

Hey, maybe I need to review YOUR bio and pic...? Didn't think of that, now did ya?

Hey, maybe we'll finally find out what happened to some of the 'Fast and Furious' guns released into the wild by former Attorney General Eric Holder?

What is illegal with storing your guns in your car on your property?

^^^ This Whenever possible I try to stand on the shoulders of giants.

Getting people's butts out to vote is the only way to stop this madness. This one party system has to go.

So all this hullabaloo is about NJ taking the bold, progressive step of publishing guns-used-in-crimes data? The guns-used-in-crimes links Zeke and Bob posted are 1-2 years old...and there are lots of similar ones already on the web. Way to get out in front of the issue, Gov SMurph! If only I was politically connected to the Democratic machine in this state, I could easily pull down a six-figure grant to perform exhaustive research into the issue and publish a comprehensive report to comply with the terms of this EO. Because you're my friends, I'll share (without charge!) my proposal. Comprehensive Research Proposal for Gov Murphy Sadly, some Democratic donor will instead be paid a crap ton of money to perform exactly those steps.

Now we can see the data will overwhelmingly show it’s illegal guns.... lmao. The opposite impact he wants is going to occur... it’s not the law abiding, and it’s not AR’s.

Illegal possession? I don't know about that. If the car was parked in his driveway that's property he owns. Nothing illegal about storing a gun on your property in a locked car and in a locked box. I think you're reading into this. I don't see anything saying tell guns were loaded or any evidence he was driving around with them in the car. Not sure about a regular NJ carry permit but the RPO permit has no limitations on how many guns you can carry. The guns you qualify with are listed on the qual form. I grew up in Elizabeth. 50 years ago I wouldn't leave anything of value in my car. I agree this was not a smart idea but I don't see where the judge committed any crime

Yes, that's the case that CA lost (so far) - Duncan vs. Becerra. Highly relevant. The judge, in the Ninth Circuit, Roger Benitez ruled: “Magazines holding more than 10 rounds are “arms.” Proposition 63 burdens the core of the Second Amendment by criminalizing the mere possession of these magazines that are commonly held by law-abiding citizens for defense of self, home, and state. The regulation is neither presumptively legal nor longstanding. The statute hits close to the core of the Second Amendment and is more than a slight burden. When the simple test of Heller is applied, a test that persons of common intelligence can understand, the statute is adjudged an unconstitutional abridgment.” Follow it here - http://michellawyers.com/duncan-v-becerra/

https://youtu.be/k6Nlb_qRoeg

I lol’ed

Was just about to post this. Man you're fast. Remind me never to get into a duel with you.

I would recommend building it. It’s easy, fun & believe me you will want to change everything on a stock rifle the more you get into the platform. Easiest route is build your lower and buy a completed upper from a company like BCM. it will require minimal tools and a YouTube tutorial. Literally takes 20 minutes. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ban ham guns!!

This place is lousy with hamflakes

Do we need another Taylor ham vs pork roll poll. The other one has been up for a few YEARS and it's been pork roll all the way

@Zeke this one caught my attention buddy....that setup is serious mooola! @Shane45 please post a range report when you can.

Probably! I dont know I never do it and I dont stay around those that do!

South, West Deptford. I forgot you posted that Troy link. Probably be hard to beat that deal. Dosent mention weight. Do you think they're all about the same unless lightweight is specified? Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

Oh, this is getting ugly

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http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/11/where_nj_criminals_get_their_guns.html This map shows the top sources for crime guns recovered in New Jersey. Pennsylvania was the biggest out-of-state source, with 370 weapons, followed by Georgia (203) and North Carolina (192). Another 29 states and the District of Columbia accounted for 215 other traces.

That's what I am trying to figure out. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Oh sweet sunshine... you think something like separation of powers will slow him down? To your point: if this EO is overretching then I’d expect legal action from our 2A groups

Wouldnt be the first time. Everytime i write porkroll. They switch it to taylor ham. Not joking. Nazi mods

Better off having them laser engraved.

Those that have dealt with him know, but Jack From JT Custom Guns is awesome. Just did some business with him and would highly recommend him to anyone.