Ray Ray 3,566 Posted November 29, 2011 Okay, here's the deal. I work for board of education and part of my job is to fill in as a custodian/boiler operator at schools where someone is out sick or injured. Well, the principal wanted to have a "lock-down drill" which I've never done before as the custodian. So, she tells me what I have to do. It's basically for an unknown person has entered the school or is on school grounds. Check this crap out! She calls over the mic, "the school is in lock-down". All the teachers must lock all the classroom doors with the students inside and my job is to walk the halls making sure no one prohibited is there. Okay, so I'm supposed to be live bait or something? I mean really, save the teachers and the kids, eff the janitors since they are dirty people that just clean the bathrooms. This is ridiculous, but it's state law. Nice right!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alec.mc 180 Posted November 29, 2011 I dont see the problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
67gtonut 847 Posted November 29, 2011 I think it sounds perfect! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anselmo 87 Posted November 29, 2011 If all you janitors hide out, no one will know... Is it really state law? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luke_WO 11 Posted November 29, 2011 In high school, we had a code for a lockdown drill. Whenever we were gonna do a lockdown, the principal came over the PA and said, "There is a plumber in the building." It was a huge joke to all of us. The thing about the janitors is insane. Unless they let them carry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hd2000fxdl 422 Posted November 29, 2011 So, which shotty did you use, how many rounds and of what, or did you not have enough notice to prepare properly??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caine 147 Posted November 29, 2011 Don't NJ schools have security guards? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnthonyG 36 Posted November 29, 2011 Teachers cant leave the children so they cant go out and check who should and shouldn't be in the building. Custodians and janitors are really the only personnel in a school building that are usually available at a moments notice to do things in general in a school. I remember in my school back in the day the janitors just hung out in their "break room" until called to clean up something or set up chairs for an assembly. Janitors are picked for that availability aspect, not because they are less of human beings or anything, to me it makes sense and if I was a janitor anywhere with that job I would be kinda proud I could be first line of defense in protecting children. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnthonyG 36 Posted November 29, 2011 Don't NJ schools have security guards? When I was in high school we had security guards but elementary and middle school didn't. I know some middle schools do now, during drills when I was in high school they had that walk around and check who should be in the building responsibility. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heaterbob 53 Posted November 29, 2011 arn't all janitors trained killing machines Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
junkmanted 54 Posted November 29, 2011 the police should walk the building !!! When theres a lock down drill the cops should be there. Plus its an excuse to bring in the drug dogs! Electrician for a BOE and township . What are you going to do squirt mop oil on the floor and foil the bad guys Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babaganoosh 192 Posted November 29, 2011 Janitors are picked for that availability aspect, not because they are less of human beings or anything, to me it makes sense and if I was a janitor anywhere with that job I would be kinda proud I could be first line of defense in protecting children. F that. Ray Ray would literally be unarmed bait for a school shooter. Like fish in a barrel. If they lockdown I would lock myself in a safe area. If he was carrying that's a different story. I would not roam the halls unarmed if there was a lockdown. No way in hell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hd2000fxdl 422 Posted November 29, 2011 Don't NJ schools have security guards? I know when I was in school we didn't have anyone, we built things in shop class that would get people arrested today and we carried knives and we never had a problem like they have in schools these days. My daughter is 12 and her she said they have a LEO on the grounds, not sure if it's an all day post or just as they are coming and going. My niece just said they have multiple security guards at her high school and these are schools in Sayreville, not like the ones I went to in Elizabeth and then Avenel and Colonia. It was a different time, Avenel had the motto: "Give them Hell from Avenel" and Colonia high back then had the motto: Bud cans and Bones" boy have things changed.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hd2000fxdl 422 Posted November 29, 2011 arn't all janitors trained killing machines No that would be the Cook.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malsua 1,422 Posted November 29, 2011 Maybe you can run a bad guy off with your bag of vomit sawdust. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daedalus 19 Posted November 29, 2011 Seems to me the administration and staff are also available to troll the halls. They have no rugrats to secure in a classroom. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted November 29, 2011 Perfect. That is Ray Ray to a T. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExpendableRaj 1 Posted November 29, 2011 Never understood the paint of lockdown drills in the first place. Every school shooting I've ever seen is a disgruntled student - who would be familiar with who is in what classroom, the lockdown procedure, everything. Just a big show and dance to give people the illusion of safety. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted November 29, 2011 the police should walk the building !!! When theres a lock down drill the cops should be there. Plus its an excuse to bring in the drug dogs! Electrician for a BOE and township . What are you going to do squirt mop oil on the floor and foil the bad guys Yes, and I'm an electrician by trade for the BOE as well. Now I know why your name is "junkman". Scrap metal baby! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heaterbob 53 Posted November 29, 2011 yes school was a much better place when we just hide under our desks and waited for the atomic bombs to go off Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maideneddie 35 Posted November 29, 2011 I also work for a school, and when we started doing these drills 3 years ago I.also had to check the halls. Once we got our new police chief I no longer have to do that. It is not state policy just the school districts. Nice to be held to a.different standard isn't ray? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted November 29, 2011 I also work for a school, and when we started doing these drills 3 years ago I.also had to check the halls. Once we got our new police chief I no longer have to do that. It is not state policy just the school districts. Nice to be held to a.different standard isn't ray? Next drill I'll have my double defense with the 15 round sling, 5 round stock, and 5 round rail mount. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunker 274 Posted November 29, 2011 Talk about justifiable need for CCW permit. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zardoz 4 Posted November 29, 2011 Next drill I'll have my double defense with the 15 round sling, 5 round stock, and 5 round rail mount. If they're going to expect you to clear out a school, have them pay for some professional training. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted November 29, 2011 aw cmon guys. Ray's got a mop and a broom - wth else does he need to clear the halls? :thsmiley_deadhorse: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CageFighter 236 Posted November 29, 2011 aw cmon guys. Ray's got a mop and a broom - wth else does he need to clear the halls? :thsmiley_deadhorse: ...u mean CLEAN the hallways! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted November 29, 2011 the police should walk the building !!! When theres a lock down drill the cops should be there. Plus its an excuse to bring in the drug dogs! They do but not always. Last month we had a lock-down drill that included the police, to test both the school and police response time. In the event of a "real" lock-down, the cops do the walk through, and school personnel are to lock themselves in any room. I asked my supervisor what to do if it was a real situation... he said if you can get out of the building why would u hang around?..this is coming from a former superintendent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted November 29, 2011 Custodians and janitors are really the only personnel in a school building that are usually available at a moments notice to do things in general in a school. Like risk their lives? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulnj088 9 Posted November 29, 2011 i am a custodian at a HS and today we had a lock down drill they dont do it right imo but what do i kno? im only a custodian Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites