this_is_nascar 162 Posted January 10, 2012 Still being somewhat a newbie here, I seems pretty clear to me that the majority of folks are more into pistols and hand-guns as opposed to long-guns and shotguns. I was wondering why that is. It's easier and less stressful to acquire and a transport a long-gun, you can purchase the long-gun as many times as you want, without a delay and without a permit for each purchase. That being the case, why the extra love for the pistol instead of the rifle (unless I've really came to an incorrect conclusion)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Socom 19 Posted January 10, 2012 this idk i have as many pistols as i do shotguns and rifles Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,878 Posted January 10, 2012 I have more rifles and shotguns than pistols (at this time)...... mainly due to NJ's stupid PP/OGAM laws. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpacemanFry 51 Posted January 10, 2012 I have no proof other than annecdotal evidence from my circle of friends and other gun owners I know, but I think it's completely in the other direction actually (ie most people have more long guns than handguns). I think handguns get more talk here because they are harder to get so you have to be more careful what you buy when the calendar dings every 30 days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hd2000fxdl 422 Posted January 10, 2012 Probably the numbers are skewed, my take is we have many more vocal members that shoot USPSA, Steel, IDPA, OBRAMS etc, we have more topics on these activities, and more chatter in these topics. There are probably as many long guns vs hand guns that it appears. I know I haven't really thought about it before, but when I count my guns, I have more long guns then hand guns, darn OGAM crap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sixtytwo327 14 Posted January 10, 2012 That being the case, why the extra love for the pistol instead of the rifle (unless I've really came to an incorrect conclusion)? I don't have any data to support it, but I get that vibe too. Being new to the state (about 1 year) and only having had my FID for 5 months (during which time I've bought 3 handguns) I'll hazard a guess: I'm 30 minutes from either Bullethole or Bayonne, and I can easily get to either on a week night. I'm an hour plus from any outdoor range, which pretty much nixes that, given how other hobbies take up my weekends. I've only had my shotguns out once since I moved up here... so that's why I'm shooting handguns much more these days, even though I own more long guns. I don't have a preference, though. Target shooting is just fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) Most new gun owners, will buy a handgun. Then.... they will end up buying a few more handguns, say up to 5, then discover rifles... and buy a ton of those. However... my handguns still get shot more than rifles. easier, more convenient. Past year, I have shot countless pistol matches, and only 2 rifle matches (cmp garand). I do however own more rifles than handguns. Rifles for me, are at least... 3 or so purpose built... AR, 22 plinker, bolt action precision . The rest are all collectibles. Handguns... are a big mix, collectibles, shooters, plinkers, etc. As a result of the permit system... I am less likely to sell a handgun I purchase, I used a permit on. Edit: Also because crazy people at most NJ ranges will not let you run and gun with a rifle. Edited January 10, 2012 by Maksim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeK77 8 Posted January 10, 2012 IMO....It;s easier to go shooting a handgun INDOORS than a rifle/shotgun. I've only used my 12g 3x since I got it in October. My 9mm & 10/22 I shoot 2-3x a month Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anselmo 87 Posted January 10, 2012 I'm with 62-327. I don't have anyplace to shoot a long gun right now. Guess if I hunted, I'd do more with long guns. Once they finish the rifle range at Range 14 I'll be buying a center fire rifle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M4BGRINGO 139 Posted January 10, 2012 I prefer shooting shotguns over anything else I own. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted January 10, 2012 I prefer rifles Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted January 10, 2012 I prefer rifle.. pistol is backup to rifle.. pistol also for carry as law allows.. it would not be very discrete to walk down the street with an AR15 over your shoulder.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XDJohnTact 49 Posted January 10, 2012 I have more rifles and shotguns than pistols (at this time)...... mainly due to NJ's stupid PP/OGAM laws. Same here! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pew Pew Plates 358 Posted January 10, 2012 Rifle is harder to shoot in NJ. Sure you can shoot 25 yards indoors at some places but other than that you are somewhat limited. You cant just walk back into your field and shoot 400 yards (well, most of us cant) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnthonyG 36 Posted January 10, 2012 I own more pistols then I do shotguns and rifles but I enjoy all types of firearms personally, but most people buy a handgun because its versatility in personal defense and its usability. However living in jersey it may not sit the same since hand guns are alot harder to do the paperwork for and its easier to get a long gun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted January 10, 2012 Honestly the gun I enjoy shooting the most is my .17hmr I can play with that gun all day Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJKen 23 Posted January 10, 2012 The pistol variety of firearm afficianados seem to be more vocal! Seriously though, like it says a few times above, its easier to shoot handguns in this state. Most clubs have limits on rifles and very few if any have a high power indoor range. I personally prefer long guns. I only wish there was a good 1000 yard range anywhere closer than 3 hours away. At least I am fortunate enough to have a private farm range that is only 5 minutes away where we made a nice 100yard range with a 20' dirt backstop. Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJCK 5 Posted January 10, 2012 I own more handguns than long guns by far. I collect handguns, mostly Smith and Wesson revolvers, Sigs, and Sig Sauers with a few Colts and Rugers of interest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NicePants 58 Posted January 10, 2012 Because revolvers are insanely cool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted January 10, 2012 I have WAY more long guns than handguns. I feel like they all get equal love though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arbelest 29 Posted January 10, 2012 I only have rifles because the law states youngin's can't have pistols. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
this_is_nascar 162 Posted January 10, 2012 Thanks for all the great feedback. Very informative. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted January 10, 2012 Handguns get talked up because most here like to shoot. This being NJ, and the price fo realestate being what it is, it's a lot easier to find places to shoot a handgun than a long gun. I'm running about 50-50 on the mix, but you'll mostly see me talk about handgun shooting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XDJohnTact 49 Posted January 10, 2012 Handguns get talked up because most here like to shoot. This being NJ, and the price fo realestate being what it is, it's a lot easier to find places to shoot a handgun than a long gun. I'm running about 50-50 on the mix, but you'll mostly see me talk about handgun shooting. Good point! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luke_WO 11 Posted January 10, 2012 Handguns get talked up because most here like to shoot. This being NJ, and the price fo realestate being what it is, it's a lot easier to find places to shoot a handgun than a long gun. I'm running about 50-50 on the mix, but you'll mostly see me talk about handgun shooting. I agree. I don't enjoy handguns much. I actually don't even own one at this point, just shotguns and rifles. That being said, it IS a bit tougher to find a suitable place to shoot a long gun around here, whether you're talking about a long, outdoor range for a rifle or a trap/skeet/sporting clays facility for shotguns. At least in North Jersey, where I am. I guess it's a little easier to drive into PA or find a good outdoor range if you're in the Southwestern part of the state. I do agree with the OP, though. The shotgun section on this site receives a LOT less traffic than the handgun section, in my opinion. Wish that would change, since shotguns are what I enjoy talking about. I don't have much to bring to the handgun conversation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
this_is_nascar 162 Posted January 10, 2012 I'd love to talk more shotgun, but I get the impression that a shotgun is something that everyone gets, practices every once in awhile and then sets it in the corner hoping they'll never have to use it for the intended purpose. At least for me, that's the extent of my Remington 870 Express Tactical. I shoot it every other month or so and I can hit my target with precision accuracy at close range. That's pretty much all there is for me to speak about as it relates to that shotgun, other than if I ever have to use it someday. I hope that will never be the case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbk 188 Posted January 10, 2012 Along with the reasonings based on availability (to both the hardware and places to utilize them), I think it's also a matter of definition. On this forum specifically, we clump all handguns together under the umbrella term. Whereas with shotguns and rifles they are broken down further into their own respective sections, at least with rifles. To explain further, all types of firearms have their niche following. Since handguns are all clumped together when referred to, it could explain the higher rate of discussion and disclosure. As handgun afficiondos, though niche communities respectively, are often represented as a collective. This is compared to rifle owners who, for example, would never want to be referred to as or be clumped into the same group with others (like the AR vs. AK communities which have laborous, contentious and pointless arguments when comparing). I'm not saying that handgun owners don't feel these contentious feelings, but it is not as apparent or as much of a dividing issue. I'm sure if we took the discussion further both here on the forum and in other environments (like face-to-face discussion), we could, and have from my experience, break the handgun discussion into subtopics such as semi-automatics, revolvers, milsurp, competition, 1911, etc. In that case, I think the discussion in some sub topics would be greater than others, but the division would cause a substantial drop in overall discussion (and is the reason why there are, of course, specialty forums for example). I think it would also either balance out the discussion or even tip the discussion in favor for long guns. All of this of course pertains to this forum specifically, but also the greater discussion of firearms ownership in NJ as a whole. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NicePants 58 Posted January 10, 2012 Along with the reasonings based on availability (to both the hardware and places to utilize them), I think it's also a matter of definition. On this forum specifically, we clump all handguns together under the umbrella term. Whereas with shotguns and rifles they are broken down further into their own respective sections, at least with rifles. To explain further, all types of firearms have their niche following. Since handguns are all clumped together when referred to, it could explain the higher rate of discussion and disclosure. As handgun afficiondos, though niche communities respectively, are often represented as a collective. This is compared to rifle owners who, for example, would never want to be referred to as or be clumped into the same group with others (like the AR vs. AK communities which have laborous, contentious and pointless arguments when comparing). I'm not saying that handgun owners don't feel these contentious feelings, but it is not as apparent or as much of a dividing issue. I'm sure if we took the discussion further both here on the forum and in other environments (like face-to-face discussion), we could, and have from my experience, break the handgun discussion into subtopics such as semi-automatics, revolvers, milsurp, competition, 1911, etc. In that case, I think the discussion in some sub topics would be greater than others, but the division would cause a substantial drop in overall discussion (and is the reason why there are, of course, specialty forums for example). I think it would also either balance out the discussion or even tip the discussion in favor for long guns. All of this of course pertains to this forum specifically, but also the greater discussion of firearms ownership in NJ as a whole. +1. That's probably the most in-depth answer you're going to get. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
almiz111 26 Posted January 10, 2012 It's time for the cliche. Here is what they say. Who is they? Don't know. You need both. The pistol is used to fight your way to your long guns and then the fun begins. At least that is how I heard it. LOL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soju 153 Posted January 10, 2012 Though I have and enjoy shooting both, I have more rifles than pistols, and I like shooting rifles significantly more. Now I am not sure if the OP's observation is in fact correct, but I also noticed the same thing. It seems like there are more posts about people buying new pistols than there are about long guns. That certainly doesn't mean that people are buying more handguns, but it seems that way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites