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Story should hit the newsstands in this Sunday's paper.  Gave the reporter a 50 minute interview this afternoon on all sorts of EFF'd-Up NJ gun laws, justifiable need & how being KIDNAPPED TWICE by the same Biker Gang wasn't justifiable ENOUGH, Dustin Friedlander (Short Hills Mall), Carol Bowne DV homicide & how she'd be lookin' at 3.5-7 if she had a loaded gun with her in the SUV when her Ex stabbed her, Shaneen Allen arrest w/ permitted hand gun over the boarder, PTI, mandatory minimums, and how even cops have to get a P2P for their off duty gun(s)!  Enough STUPID to fill an entire story by itself.  I hope I'm treated fairly, as I was assured I would be.  I also hope I spoke up well for all of us here on the forum that want to see real changes for the better when it comes to NJ gun laws!

Rosey

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9 minutes ago, Bklynracer said:

Is there a online paper, I'm in Bergen county 

Yes there is & I'll post the direct link when it's published on Sunday.  http://www.app.com/news/ will get you to the main news page.

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Well, APP used to be a fairly conservative newspaper back in the day, but since it was bought by Gannett awhile back, they have gone full Left Wing SJW nutjobbery.  I would not be surprised if they write the story slanting you as a rabid crazed gun-nut that wants to kill the liddle childrens!!!

Good on you for doing it though, hope I am wrong---

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7 minutes ago, matty said:

Well, APP used to be a fairly conservative newspaper back in the day, but since it was bought by Gannett awhile back, they have gone full Left Wing SJW nutjobbery.  I would not be surprised if they write the story slanting you as a rabid crazed gun-nut that wants to kill the liddle childrens!!!

Good on you for doing it though, hope I am wrong---

Thanks to everyone for your kudos.  I went in with reservations & both eyes OPEN, and was assured by the reporter that she'd write it fairly, so we'll see what her editor does between now & when the presses roll.  To say she was enlightened would be an understatement to say the least.  Permit waiting periods, mental health checks, comparisons to gun laws in free amerikka, NICS check to get the P2P & then a second NICS on the day of, NICS & P2P's for cops that carry 24/7/365 (WOW, that's dumb, I didn't know THAT), I even called a NJ CCW a "Unicorn in a hay stack", citing between 1,300-1,700 carry permits granted to RPO's, judges & the politically connected in a state of 9 million residents.  The poor girl got both barrels & typed as fast as I spoke while using her headset for the phone :) .  I think I'll be treated decently.  She also mentioned Nappen & Bach were quoted for the story, so I'm in great company.  I made sure to ask her what Nappen & Bach spoke about so as to ensure that I wouldn't be redundant & look like a fool.  Between the three of us our side was well represented.

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Rosey, I'm sure you handled yourself like a true gentleman.  And I'm pretty sure you will be made to look crazy and incoherent.  Two things EVERYONE here knows you are not.  I'll be waiting to read this article. 

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2 hours ago, Smokin .50 said:

Story should hit the newsstands in this Sunday's paper.  Gave the reporter a 50 minute interview this afternoon on all sorts of EFF'd-Up NJ gun laws, justifiable need & how being KIDNAPPED TWICE by the same Biker Gang wasn't justifiable ENOUGH, Dustin Friedlander (Short Hills Mall), Carol Bowne DV homicide & how she'd be lookin' at 3.5-7 if she had a loaded gun with her in the SUV when her Ex stabbed her, Shaneen Allen arrest w/ permitted hand gun over the boarder, PTI, mandatory minimums, and how even cops have to get a P2P for their off duty gun(s)!  Enough STUPID to fill an entire story by itself.  I hope I'm treated fairly, as I was assured I would be.  I also hope I spoke up well for all of us here on the forum that want to see real changes for the better when it comes to NJ gun laws!

Rosey

Rosey having met you I know you gave an extremely intelligent argument for our cause.

The Asbury Park Press however is a Gannett owned POS run by a POS progressive  company that terminated the best of the so called journalists that they employ.

At best they will twist your words to fit their agenda, at worst, there is nothing they aren't capable of.

No offense to you but no one should even click their links or purchase the trash they produce. They are anti gun and anti working man. Overall a bunch of slime balls.

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1 hour ago, brucin said:

Rosey having met you I know you gave an extremely intelligent argument for our cause.

The Asbury Park Press however is a Gannett owned POS run by a POS progressive  company that terminated the best of the so called journalists that they employ.

At best they will twist your words to fit their agenda, at worst, there is nothing they aren't capable of.

No offense to you but no one should even click their links or purchase the trash they produce. They are anti gun and anti working man. Overall a bunch of slime balls.

I hope I'll be treated fairly, as I was promised same.  We even chatted about word count not needing to be equal as long as I wasn't misquoted :) .  In bantering back & forth, Amanda mentioned there were a couple closet gun owners in the news room & at least one hunter.  She has family that owns guns & frequents Shore Shot Pistol Range.  Her Uncle has a huge collection & trains NJSP in some capacity as a firearms instructor.  So there's HOPE....

I don't read that rag myself, but this Sunday I'll make an exception.

On a personal note, I still have that bottle & intend to get it to you when this news cycle calms down.  Posting for the Coalition is turning into a full-time job :)  

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1 hour ago, JohnnyB said:

Thanks Rosey!  I am so impressed, I just now joined the NJCFO!  Keep up the good fight.:)

Thanks for your faith & trust.  Our hearts are in this for the long run.  Just think what kind of media campaign we could employ if 10K gun owners joined out of the 1M we're supposed to have in NJ!  Power in numbers for sure, so WELCOME & THANK YOU!

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BUMP!  STORY BROKE TODAY ON FRONT PAGE OF ASBURY PARK PRESS!

Nappen, Bach & I are quoted in the story:

http://www.app.com/story/news/politics/2017/10/16/concealed-carry-gun-laws-helping-criminals-protecting-victims/759314001

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But that scenario is precisely why anti-domestic violence groups are worried. If the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act is adopted, an angry lover may be able to quickly get a handgun in Pennsylvania, without the 30-day New Jersey-required waiting period, then legally enter the Garden State and commit violence.

:rolleyes: no no no. That's not how it works. 

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6 minutes ago, ChrisJM981 said:

 

 

:rolleyes: no no no. That's not how it works. 

Yeah, I noticed that too - but I guess (theoretically anyway) SOME could - but only if they had a 2nd residence in PA, correct? Either way, it did an exaggerated, incorrect impression on that point. I suppose someone could write a letter to the editor about that? Maybe one of the 2A groups should.

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In the context of how it's written the writer is suggesting that a resident of NJ could go to PA and buy a gun, then come to NJ before the mythical 30 day waiting period. You can purchase a handgun in PA, but it's getting shipped to a FFL in NJ. You cannot legally take possession of a handgun in PA unless you're a PA resident. 

Then you need your NJ Pistol Purchase Permit to pick it up. It's pure rubbish.

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Given the obvious slant the reporter had going into this story. I would say that OUR SIDE, Rosey, Bach and Nappen hit a home run on this one! The common sense and logic they presented almost swayed the author to our side. All in all, a fair article!

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8 hours ago, 1LtCAP said:

smokin....awesome job sir!

 

 but i see all kinds of bias in that article. against us. it's not as blatant as many are....but it's there.


Agreed. There's still a lot of "anti-gun" spin in the article. Although it's good that our folks got the "last word."  


Excellent job Smokin!

 

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23 minutes ago, HBecwithFn7 said:


Agreed. There's still a lot of "anti-gun" spin in the article. Although it's good that our folks got the "last word."  


Excellent job Smokin!

 

I tried to contact the author for clarification on where the part about getting a gun in PA came from, but I didn't see any contact information. Am I being unreasonable expecting reporters to research their facts before printing an article? At least someone called out that fictional scenario in the comments section. 

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7 minutes ago, ChrisJM981 said:

I tried to contact the author for clarification on where the part about getting a gun in PA came from, but I didn't see any contact information. Am I being unreasonable expecting reporters to research their facts before printing an article? At least someone called out that fictional scenario in the comments section. 

Apparently, you are being unreasonable, if the "research" gets in the way of purporting the desired agenda.  :dontknow:

 

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Thanks everyone for all of the kudos!  I pour my soul into our 2A fight & so do all of the folks that help run / fund the Coalition's all volunteer trustee board & committees.  Folks like W2MC^^^ that attend pheasant hunt & sporting clays fundraisers (see ya at Lehigh Sporting Clays on the 29th Jon). 

The article gave both sides, although our side wasn't given a chance to reply to the infamous "gun show loophole" that doesn't exist!  Remember that stories like this one are worked-on for 4-7 days prior to publication, so the editor gets a crack at making sure the slant is there.  It's not always the reporter who is at fault.  Amanda's family are members of Sure Shot Range in Lakewood.  I invited her to the range for a free session, so let's see if she takes me up on my offer.

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