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WHEN WE'RE ALL DONE PISSING DOWN EACH OTHER'S BACKS, THERE'S STILL PATRIOT SHIT THAT NEEDS DONE! A forum is a great resource UNTIL ____________(fill-in the blank)! I'm planning a Sporting Clays fundraiser today that will expose Fudds to the Second Amendment scene. Anyone HERE interested in doing something where some one-on-one interaction can happen? Anyone wanna be a sponsor? A participant? Both? I feel the frustration, I really do! Now take that misplaced ENERGY & DIRECT IT AT THE ENEMY and NOT each other! Rosey

PA is out, Vermont is now out. Running out of states to retreat to. Stand and Fight.

Not sure if this has been shared here, but Steve Lonegan posted a video breaking Bob Menendez' balls regarding Bob's handling of an AR during a PR stunt: Long and short of it is that Lonegan is calling Menendez out for being a hypocrite and violating NJ gun law by handling a firearm (Menendez doesn't have a FID). Lonegan tried to file a complaint with the Essex County College police (where the PR event took place) so he's now going to the Essex county Prosecutor directly to have Menendez charged. Nothing will happen, but kudos to Lonegan for pushing the issue.

This states gun laws are built on hanging people on technicalities. So to dish said technicalities back to those creating them is justice in my book.

it goes beyond guns about me moving. I am tired working for "the man" and then getting raped by the gov't. I dont have kids, but pay $9k in taxes. NJ sucks! -Im no longer greedy.......time to find a cheaper place to live.

Synopsis: NJ Senate Democrats suck and don't give a rat's ass about "the people" They will continue to disarm and try to enslave us until either we or they are dead. And that, my friend, is the rest of the story.

...another troll? [emoji848] I’m hunting skewey trolls lately. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Wait it is stupid for a potential politician to call our another active politician for breaking the law? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS....

Stand and Fight fine let's Fight. Wait that won't work because few are willing to put their freedom on the line. This has been admitted by many on this forum. If those who go to the rallies won't fight how many do you think will? I got news for everyone complying is not fighting. So it's lawsuits and fund raising for those lawsuits. Also need to be able to buy politicians and protestors. The key to it all is money. If we dont at least attempt to raise real money then we will not win. If we can't raise real money we will not win. Chessman go fund me was at $10k last I looked. Let's face reality that is chump change. It will always be chump change if we are trying to raise $35-$100 at a time. Hopefully we can change this. If we can not raise real money I'm leaving, because there are far too few who are willing to stand and really Fight. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Because of a few things - Guns only being one of them..... Taxes - Quality of Life - Sanctuary Madness etc. The life that I saw in NJ 20 odd years ago and was able to carve out is untenable today for most. The State is dying and needs to completely crash and hopefully rise like a phoenix. Gun's? We do not have the depth of personnel to make a major move electorally in my opinion to thwart this onslaught. *Maybe* if the trend of engagement and filling the ranks continues, you have a chance 15-20 years from now to see changes - I will be 71 and long gone in 20 years. As I have stated, the battles being lost now are do to the apathy in my opinion of the last 20 or so years plus. The future of the state of NJ and the 2A in the state rests with the kids - without them it is done and not only here. Some will call it running, some will call it retreating - I think of it as a tactical redirection and consolidation of troops. But in the end, all this is means nothing, until there is an engagement by SCOTUS to rule and then those willing at a state level to sue to fight for their rights.

This battle was lost before it even started - you want to win future battles - you need to engage person to person to swell the ranks. The passivity over the years in the state has yielded this moment - it is a generational war and we are losing. How do you turn it around? Ask yourself this - when was the last time you introduced someone to shooting? When was the last time you wore your 'colors' without worry of being labeled or looked down upon? When was the last time you engaged someone who was talking out their kiester to set them straight? If you haven't done one or any of these things, your attendance at a rally means nothing. @Smokin .50 has the correct idea and is engaging where it matters - from the ground up. While others are fighting a higher tier battle. Yes we bitch we moan - some want it their way or the highway - you do know who you are - Zeke comes to mind initially.The losses we are experiencing today *ARE* the direct result of the apathy of those that came before us to engage at every level and NOT increasing the numbers as needed. This is solely a numbers game and we do not have the depth in the bench currently to play long ball against the heavy hitters. Best we try to play smart - while looking to the minors.

Why move anywhere? STAND AND FIGHT

PA has entered the race to the bottom. For their sake lets hope their Hunters like to vote more than ours.

Way to endear yourself to forum members. While guns may be a big part of our lives, for most of us they aren't our whole lives. Considerations of our employment and spousal employment have to be considered. Quality of school systems and quality of life as regards to other interests all go into the decision of where to live. There are states that have less stringent laws and lower cost of living than PA, why aren't you living there? Adios, Pizza Bob

I don't think apathy is the sole reason people are not showing up or getting involved. There is plenty of apathy out there, but I think the silent majority is not apathetic at all, I think there are a multitude of reasons people with a vested interest are not getting involved. We just need to nail those reasons down. In sales, the way you make a deal is by overcoming objections. Price too high, quality not good, wrong color, too heavy, there are a million ways a deal can fall through. Successful salesmen are successful because they know how to overcome objections. We need to engage people and find out why they are not going to rallies, writing e-mails to elected officials and so on. More than half the people I know that have guns don't even shoot them on a regular basis. It's an uphill battle and we need soldiers who are also diplomats.

I am so glad you had asked this - ! Of all people two women from DUMBO ( I don't know if you know what that is but LIBS from down under the Manhattan Brooklyn bridge area) - moved up hear and they go to my church - I just hosted a lunch and learn for them and they had no idea how false the narrative was about guns and what the real 'news' is - They are now going to the range with me next month for a live fire and it looks like more, in their group want to learn more. So while this in no way makes me special at all - well it does..... JK

While I wouldn't put it past ANY politicien to pander to the press, making any anti feel at least an iota of the scrutiny we constantly face as gun owners in NJ, Im good with it

Please explain to us ignorant folks why this is a cheap stunt? I would say this is anything but a cheap stunt.

And you think you are the only one feeling that? People too dumb to realize those taxes are the result of democratic policies also move due to the pain, and then vote as they always have. Moving isn't going to solve anything, it will just delay it for you.

The AG was probably flooded with emails, phone calls and letters from assholes in New Jersey asking if they can carry in his state. He probably didn't even pay attention to it but the big mouths ruined it for the rest of us. Loose lips sink ships

LOL..... ok.... enough

photos or it never happened.....

This is what the State is using to try to push neighboring states to change their laws. NJ and Murphy are blaming PA and other nearby states (as well as a few further away) for all of NJ's gun crime. Not realizing that it's not an inanimate object committing the crime, but NJ criminals.

It's possible to buy 80% frames that are already serialized. Here's a retailer that sells 80% lowers with an option for them to engrave a serial #'s before shipping: https://www.righttobear.com/Polymer-80-PF940V2-Full-Size-Frame-V2-Black-p/pf940v2-black.htm

We need to do all we can to break the stereotypes. Last weekend I took a fence-sitter and another who was deathly afraid of guns to Cedar Creek Sporting clays. The young man there wearing a t-shirt that had "Liberalism is a mental disorder" printed on it isn't making our task easier, that's for sure. Fortunately neither of them spotted him, and they both had a blast, and can't wait to do it again, as well as get out to the indoor range to try some handguns. We had a great talk on the way home about the laws on the books and in the pipeline, and both of them were repeatedly saying "That doesn't make sense", and "That seems like nothing but trying to punish gun owners" etc. That is how we win.

I apologize .. I shouldnt have taken your response that way and responded the way I did. After I replied I re-read what you wrote and looked at it from a different perspective. Sometimes text can be construed more than one way. But I get ya .. I wish we could invoke the change we all know we want here in NJ .. taxes .. gun laws... etc .. I dont see how it can be done given the numbers we are against.

im not saying im agreeing with the gun laws we have .. im not .. they are a load of crap. His video and his website make it out like this is some sort of breaking news when its nothing more that an attempt to grab a headline.

It affects Maryland Residents as well. It's an Anti Gun thing and yes a Democrat thing. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

The high cost of living is prime reason im looking to gtfo. The gun issue is just a cherry on top. Jersey is just way to freaking expensive with no relief in sight. This dipshit of a gov is going to continue to tax us to death here.

No gun control laws have passed. The AG closed a loophole that apparently you were exploiting. I won't judge anyone on that cause I would do the same thing if I was there. Reciprocity is alive and well for residents of the states that PA has agreements with.

If anyone thinks that moving will solve the problem, especially after the changes in PA, FL and VT recently, it is those people who have lost touch with reality. Nick is absolutely right. If you want to ignore reality and take the easy way out, maybe you guys should join the progressive movement.

They need to watch this.........

Both. Rosey, I'll PM you my info - I'm a CNJFO member.

Someone should sue NH. Oh wait, nevermind.

Just more proof our elected officials are fools. They seem to not understand the 80/20 rule of life. If 20% of something causes 80% of your problems then that is what you spend money on and go after. In this case they are claiming that the gun crime problem is caused by 80% of more by guns from out of state. IF true, and it probably is, then you spend your limited resources going after that problem NOT going after legal gun owners with tighter laws that are already followed by legal honest people. Their approach is akin to passing tough new MPG regulations on small hybrid cars because they have a problem with over the road tractor trailers using too much fuel.

Oh good God, these articles are such such Bs. How are they getting illegal guns in Mexico? Heck, all of South America? PA has the same handgun laws as NJ, you can not do a FTF transfer without a background check, it's also a federal felony to transfer a pistol across state lines without an FFL. So there's already laws in place. The most damming evidence is the illegal cycle of guns is 11 years from purchase date... Meaning, there's an 11 year cycle before they show up on the black market so they're not buying guns then running them to NJ. These guns are illegal and come from all locations... Stolen from police, stolen from homes, etc. All guns that make their rounds illegally are illegal and we have numerous laws against this... Just another way to blame honest gun owners and you guys are believing this bs.

I have relatively low experience carrying (approximately 3 years, with 2 firearms). I for one love my 1911...but I wouldn't want to carry it. That's me though, and different people are different. What works for me is a simple kydex holster, with an undershirt tucked in, and a t shirt on top. I don't find kydex all that uncomfortable. Other options have worked for other people. Certainly look for opinions on what other people have tried, but don't be afraid to buy a couple different types of holsters and try them out. Just keep in mind that you get what you pay for with holsters, don't go with any ebay/no-name brand.

9X19 I am one of the old guys too and I will not shut up. I don't mind the subject matter of the thread and miss a few of the places mentioned down here in Ocean County. Just ignore those who find fault with the posts made by others. Everyone is not as open minded and experienced as those of us who past mile marker 60!

Actually never thought very much of those three mentioned. Their demise came from their lack of good business sense and poor attitude of the staff.

I’m curious. If you asked a random first-poster from the Welcome section to read this thread, do you think they’d want to get involved?

Held yesterday in honor of April 19th, 1775 ......Lexington Greene....."The Shot Heard Round The World"......lest we forget.

We need a dislike button Troy

Let’s not get crazy..... yet Not a great way to enter our forum..... but not a troll..... yet

You need to read this forum before posting stuff like this for your first post. There are plenty of threads explaining everything. No sense in preaching to the choir. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

why even let the landlord know? its his right. does the lease explicitly state anything against firearms?

You buy what you can afford, Fuk what everybody else thinks.

I run ELS/QLS and I LOVE IT. My wife and I share a pistol for matches and it's great being able to pop the gun/holster combo right off one belt and on to the other. no fuss no muss. It's very common, which means if your pistol goes down and there's a friend or just friendly person in your squad with ELS/QLS, you can swap their mag pouches and holster/gun onto your belt in a matter of seconds for a backup. Also, ELS affords you the ability to swap gear all around to be "mission specific" for particular situations. Since you may not always be using a handgun with your belt, you can also adapt other stuff with QLS to make use of that spot on your belt. I have a 8 shell caddy on a QLS (not ELS) clip so that if I'm doing a shotgun only stage/event I don't lose that spot on my belt. Highly recommended.

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