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  1. 32 points
    He won’t have a reason, but I suppose he could try. You tell me... I am quite disheartened with some of the fear mongering going on right now and it’s at a full court press. From threats of mass raids on those who own firearms capable of accepting “large capacity magazines,” to Murphy must conduct raids for fear of political retribution, to I’m facing 115 years in jail and a million in fines, to waking up today to an article posted speaking of searches of homes without probable cause (during a search for terrorist bombers), for reasons I’m not sure of, a few in the community are doing, in my opinion, a disservice to the 2a community. I’m not seeking to take away what they have done over time and for what they have done, I and all of us should be grateful for that. As we stand here, on the eve of many of our friends turning into criminals for doing nothing more than inaction, and we stand here having had our constitutional rights limited, illegally and against our will, I thought I’d offer another perspective. A perspective on seeking to help some of us figure it out, and not scare some of us into hiding or moving out of state and reducing the size of the community here to support the second amendment. Full disclosure, I can’t call this legal advice as I don’t know all of your specifics, but I can offer some perspective and try and quell some of the fear that has been heightened over the last few days. That’s not to say there should be no fear, the government has just infringed on our constitutional rights, our governor is hostile to our cause, but the onslaught currently occurring, is making people think tomorrow is the day my local PD raids my home. About me: I’m a proud supporter of the second amendment, a criminal defense attorney, and a former Assistant Middlesex County Prosecutor who ran the county gang, gun, and drugs task force. At my time there, lawful gun owners were not the target of our investigations, that’s not to say some lawful gun owners didn’t do other nutty or illegal stuff, but we didn’t target them for being gun owners, they were targeted for drug dealing, illegal gun running, assault, etc. Those people we in no way assets to the second amendment cause. We, those of us on these discussion groups and forums, are among the most educated gun owners in the state. There are hundreds of thousands of gun owners in the state, but these Facebook groups and forums have 2,000 or 5,000 people participating in the discussion. Quite honestly, I’d expect Joe Schmo gun owner, who got a pistol after watching the expendables because it looks cool, and really has no idea about the mag ban or his second amendment rights, to run afoul of the law before any of us do. That said, I hope, that any person who unknowingly or mistakenly brings a “large capacity magazine” to a range or gun club, is told to take it home or throw it out, and not have the police called on them. I can’t imagine any range that did that would be in business long anyways. I have a hard time with someone, especially someone knowledgeable, suggesting that the simple act of owning a gun that can accept large capacity magazines, is grounds for large scale raids. That IS fear mongering. Raids require search warrants. Search warrants require probable cause. Probable cause has to be determined by a judge, yes a N.J. judge, but a judge. It’s not some willy nilly standard. There have to be proofs of the illegality, describe the items they are seeking, and enough facts, specific facts, to overbear your fourth amendment rights. I have participated in a large amount of search warrants, from the drafting of the affidavit to appearing with the officer in front of a judge, defending search warrants on motions to suppress, and challenging searches based on the fourth amendment. I would not approve an officer seeing a judge, nor would I ever expect a judge to approve a search warrant based on the following: “John Doe is a resident of New Jersey. In 2009, he purchased a Beretta 92fs, a 9 millimeter pistol. That firearm is capable of accepting a magazine that contains more than 10 rounds. Based upon the previous, we believe that we have probable cause to believe that he has a large capacity magazine.” Even in N.J., that isn’t going to fly. It’s probable cause to believe, not a hunch. Without more that’s simply a hunch. That isn’t to say that won’t be part of an application for a search warrant, but there must be more. Someone witnessing your large capacity magazine, posting photos of your large capacity magazines to social media, or possibly bragging about keeping them or using them could certainly further their quest to search a home. What i find sad, is with specific knowledge of what is required for a search warrant, people are still stoking the fires of fear regarding mass raids. I don’t think anyone is actually facing 115 years in jail or a million in fines for their magazines. The N.J. sentencing laws would never allow that type of sentence, not would logic allow for it. The law prohibits the possession of magazines over 10 rounds just like it prohibits possessing hollow points outside of the limited exceptions. Have you ever heard, or do you think even this sad state would allow for punishment per bullet, a 50 round box allowing for a max sentence of 75 years or a super dangerous box of 525 .22’s allowing for a max sentence of 787 years in jail. Similarly, simple possession of 50 large capacity mags will not get you 75 years. Also, with very limited exception, fines other than mandatory ones are not doled out. I’d say I’ve seen 10 cases have discretionary fines in my career of thousands of cases in superior court, and never the maximum. That said, with no record and being a lawful gun owner, possession is a fourth degree crime, which means there is a presumption of non incarceration. Having no record, a person is more likely to have pretrial intervention or probation. I’m in no way saying I agree that it should be illegal, but likely punishment potential needs to be kept in perspective. A quick note on exigency and the article posted on the Boston bombing, though oddly making no mention of the bombing or the search being for the bombers. First, they asked for consent. It’s not easy to say no, especially to highly armed officers in tactical gear, but it’s your right. Does anyone think when police are searching for a similarly situated dirtbag, who just murdered several people including a police officer, and maimed hundreds of others, their focus is on the non-complaint magazine in someone’s sock drawer? The law may allow for the search, but if it does, they have more on their mind than your 15 round Glock mag. It might be more instructive instead of saying prepare for mass raids, to inform people, many who do not posses our knowledge of the law, with their rights. If the police show up and ask to see your weapons or gun safe, you are free to say no. Be careful, they are very slick and will say anything to get into your home if that is their mission. They can’t arrest you for not consenting. If they ask you if you have magazines that are non-compliant, you are free to remain silent. Don’t lie, just be silent and say I don’t wish to speak with you. It is easier said than done as police are instructed on how to manipulate targets to get them to allow searches, waive miranda, etc. If they threaten that they will get a search warrant if you don’t consent, tell them ok. It’s an absolute they will get in if you consent. It’s not absolute that they will be granted a search warrant, and if they do, you can challenge it later in court. If people are worried about parts of the law, they should speak directly with a lawyer about their particular situation. That’s my 2 cents, feel free to disregard, I won’t force anyone to do or believe anything, I just want you to know their are other informed opinions out there that aren’t total doom and gloom.
  2. 24 points
    Story should hit the newsstands in this Sunday's paper. Gave the reporter a 50 minute interview this afternoon on all sorts of EFF'd-Up NJ gun laws, justifiable need & how being KIDNAPPED TWICE by the same Biker Gang wasn't justifiable ENOUGH, Dustin Friedlander (Short Hills Mall), Carol Bowne DV homicide & how she'd be lookin' at 3.5-7 if she had a loaded gun with her in the SUV when her Ex stabbed her, Shaneen Allen arrest w/ permitted hand gun over the boarder, PTI, mandatory minimums, and how even cops have to get a P2P for their off duty gun(s)! Enough STUPID to fill an entire story by itself. I hope I'm treated fairly, as I was assured I would be. I also hope I spoke up well for all of us here on the forum that want to see real changes for the better when it comes to NJ gun laws! Rosey
  3. 23 points
    Good day and I hope this email finds you well. On our chat I have had a number of questions regarding what's going on and I wanted to send out a note to reassure you. If you are not aware, since the "election" social media companies have been hard at work silencing those they simply do not agree with. Twitter has banned over 70,000 accounts and FaceBook is purging posts that have key terms like "Stop the steal." Today, the purge hit the firearms community and a site that pretty much everyone is familiar with, AR15.com. Unfortunately, this is not surprising and anyone in the domain community has known for some time that GoDaddy is Anti-Gun and Anti Freedom of Speech. So while I am irritated that GoDaddy took these actions with AR15.com, I am more surprised that it was somehow a shock to someone who should have known better. AR15.com was registered at GoDaddy, and far more disturbing, is still having it's website hosted on Amazon's AWS. Just last night, Amazon chose to cut off services to Parler, which ran on the very same Amazon Web Services' cloud computing platform. How Does this Impact NJGF and How Are We Exposed? Since DAY 1, over 12 years ago, being at the mercy of anti-gun companies has been a concern of mine. As such, the domain has ALWAYS been registered and managed at either an offshore web registrar, Internet.bs, registered in the Bahamas, or, and for the last few years, at Epik.com, a registrar owned by a Freedom loving, CEO Rob Monster, someone I have come to known fairly well over the prior few years. Before Gab.com, Parler.com and now AR15.com found Epik.com, we have been using them for NJGunForums.com registration along with many other domains in my firearms portfolio. The company is strongly in support of the First and Second Amendments and I do not have any concerns there. In either case, if there is trouble on the horizon, the next step would be to register the domain at an offshore registrar. Hosting wise, there is a weeeeeee bit more exposure. NJGF is hosted on a dedicated server, with a host we have used for the last 8 years or so. I have had multiple discussions with the host over the years regarding firearms and they are completely okay with the firearms community. More than that, we are not on a "cloud" hosting platform where the data is all over the place, the data is on a server, backed up to two drivers. We DO use Amazon for cheap backup storage however, however an outage there, would have no impact on the community. As a backup, I maintain a number of backup hosts offshore as well, currently Norway, a country that values internet freedom, and will look into adding a second in either Switzerland or Bulgaria. In the event the current host would have an issue with the firearms community, it would take a few hours to transition to an offshore hosting account. Many people have asked about what they can do, and why we have "Premier Memberships" on the forum, this is why. Bottom Line While I am deeply concerned about the "cancel culture," I am not concerned about being in the position that AR15.com is today, and what many other firearms communities may find themselves in tomorrow. For the last 10 years, these concerns were top of mind and it is why we block traffic from most of Asia, and have the domain registered and servers hosted where we do. If you want to support the community and help with the additional backup servers, please consider becoming a Premier Member. You can do that here... https://www.njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/store/category/1-premier-membership/ If you have domains left over at GoDaddy, and want to tell them to pound sand, I highly recommend Epik.com, and it is where I have the vast majority of my domains registered, please use our link, http://slav.li/epik Thanks! -Maks
  4. 22 points
    OK..... Everyone needs to chill out. And what I mean by that is how we interact with each-other on this board. Yes.... this week SUCKED for us as far as our rights.... The fight is not over... There are already many new members looking for guidance on these new laws. Be nice.... Be Patient, they could be your next range partner... There are many current members that are confused on these new laws. We need to work together to discuss the definition of what these laws are, and what our future holds, and how we can help fight them. But attacking and being rude to each other because the other person might have a different take on the issue will get us no where. So EVERYONE needs to relax and start being nice to their 2A neighbor ...... if we cannot stick together, we have zero chance to do anything positive. Don't make me and my mod staff have to move and moderate threads on this stuff.....
  5. 20 points
    Greenday sat down at the bar and told the bartender, 'I'll have three shots of whiskey, please." The bartender replied, "Three shots? Are you celebrating something?" "As a matter of fact, I am. I just experienced my first blow-job." Greenday responded. "That's great!" said the bartender. "I'll give you a fourth shot on the house." "Don't bother," said Greenday. "If the first three shots won't get rid of the taste, nothing will."
  6. 19 points
    Ahh, there it is, I was waiting for it to put in an appearance, and it is no surprise that it was in a post from AVB-AMG. The "C" word - compromise. The tool used by every snake oil salesman, just before they sell you down the river. Gun owners have been sold the "compromise deal" ever since someone decided that the general populous having guns was a bad thing - and screw the 2A and its "shall not be infringed". Lets see, there was the GCA of 1934, the GCA of 1968, the ban on full auto weapons under the guise of the FOPA of 1986, the AWB of 1994, not to mention all the "me-too" legislation enacted by various states and municipalities. I think that someone needs to show our politicians the meaning of the word "compromise". Here's how Webster defines it: settlement of differences by arbitration or by consent reached by mutual concessions. What concessions have we received? Where is the compromise in all of the above? Gee, the government has allowed us to keep guns it approves of, but it keeps coming back to the table for another bite of the gun control apple. There should be no more compromises - we've given up enough, it's time to draw our line in the sand. Adios, Pizza Bob
  7. 18 points
    It’s a right, not a privilege. You may not like it GnC, but you don’t get to choose who gets to exercise their rights and who doesn’t. They people get to choose for themselves. Pretty cool how that works, huh? Maybe if more people owned and carried guns in N.J., and maybe if there was an actual established gun culture in N.J., everyone would have a better idea on how to act around firearms. The four firearms safety rules would be common knowledge like cross at the green and not in between and don’t eat yellow snow. Imagine if growing up in a gun friendly house and being raised by enthusiast parents didn’t make you a social pariah. Imagine if schools had hunters ed alongside drivers ed and a shooting team - clays, bullseye, 3 Gun - alongside basketball and baseball. It’s funny. Those same people drive, marry, have kids. Each of those things is infinitely more prone to causing death, injury, and disaster. Yet the “idiots” miraculously seem to manage. I wonder why? Probably because they are surrounded by those that know what they are doing. Because these things are commonly practiced, commonly accepted, and everyday topics of discussion without fear of repercussions. Maybe we should take time to teach people at the range instead of bitch about how unsafe they would be if they were to exercise their rights.
  8. 18 points
    Great video You can skip to 4:39 if you want to get to the Truth.
  9. 17 points
    Hell has frozen over...... and I just saw a pig fly..... I got the call..... I pick up my permit tomorrow Submitted end of June Morris County Rockaway Twp. Qualification done at RTSP in Randolph Never did I think this could be a possibility......
  10. 17 points
    My neighbor texted a little bit ago that a Bald Eagle was in his tree. I grabbed the 600mm zoom and got some cool shots!
  11. 17 points
    "Leaving on a jet plane, don't know when I'll be back again....." John Denver.... Actually, I will be driving for about 13 hours on our trek to leave this beautiful state. ...and no, I will not be returning again.... Tennessee, here we come. I'm posting this so whomever here think we should stay and fight and in countless threads, people telling me I should stay and fight for our rights. I'm posting this because the many that can stay in fight, should and GodSpeed. But a lot of us are leaving, not just because gun laws and NJ politics. Some of us are getting older and preparing for retirement. My wife and I had deep discussion over this and if we stay here, even our pensions and social security will not enable us to keep paying, paying and more paying. Some examples of living in Tennessee: - Our home insurance here is about $1K a year. TN is about $582 for a brand new home. - Taxes: NJ collects all the taxes you can think of. My home here is on a 40x100 ft lot. My taxes here are about $6500 a year. TN is about $1500 TN collects no State Income Tax. Their sales taxes suck a bit, averaging the collective state and county taxes of about 9.25% Lil' high but you save in a long run. Doesn't mean you have to spend thousands a year. Our biggest sales tax hit will be when we get there and buying all new furniture and such. - Car insurance for 2 brand new leased vehicles cost us almost $2G a year. TN full coverage is $1G for both vehicles. - OK, your favorite. Gun laws... I've had over 5 ccw's here in NJ over the years. Some were job related. Some not. You all, or should I start saying ya'll know the trials and tribulations you are confronting every day in NJ. In TN, they honor almost all states CCWs including Utah. Which I have. That will enable me to carry from the Virginias on out to TN till I get my CCW there. There are no fid or pistol permits persay. Just instant NICS checks. Buy a gun, walk out with it. Once you get your TN ccw which I believe does not take long, you are good to go. Many ranges and gun stores, 2 of which are in the same town. But I will make a day trip to Kentucky Gun which I have done business with over the years. They are only 6% sales tax and are a gun friendly state. - We can live anywhere as long as we get hi-speed internet. My wife is going to be allowed to work from home for the rest of her time employed as long as she has hi-speed internet so she can VPN in to her main office in Oregon. My only criteria is at least an acre and a garage that will be my man cave. I would really like being Bob Lee Swagger and go off grid but you don't get many amenities that way, including a Triple Play Package because if you want land, you are stuck with just a Satellite Dish and that won't cut it. So when we officially retire, we very well may go off the grid a bit. So no backyard shooting till then. - Friends and family. My parents have passed long ago and my siblings are no longer in my eye site. They fall into the turnip category due to jealousy. I've worked hard all my life. If you choose not to, that's on you... My best friend passed away and all others have done what we are doing now. Getting out of this hell hole. All my LEO comrades moved to FL, AZ and other areas and opened up 7-11s.... screw dat! I'd open donut shops! lmao.... So, guess I'll have to make new friends and enjoy what lil time my wife has with her only parent, her dad which will be a mere 14 mile drive. So please, if you see people in which you feel are running from this state because of gun laws, it may not just be about that. I'm tired of fighting for my NJ rights. I did my time here in many facets of life, Civil Defense, Rescue Squads, LEO, CG and many other things.... I don't need to do that, as I have pushed for over 60 years. So that being said, I leave this beautiful state with tears in my eyes. I've lived in my town my whole life. I say 'beautiful state' because it is. It just happens to be ran by criminal scum politicians. The landscape can be city all the way through country living. If you have toured this state as much as I have, there are many beautiful places. By the end of this week, I should be underway and to never look back! So fair well to the friends I have made here, the business relationships and so on. I'd like to think I been helpful over the years and made some sort of difference. For the people who hate or despise me, no harm, no foul. If that is your nature in general, so be it. I won't say I hate you because I am not that kind of person. But all I can suggest is look outside the box. Its not and never will be all about you. I will try to check in from time to time, but we will be knee deep in trying to settle in. Good Luck! Ya'll will need it!
  12. 17 points
    I would really like to announce and Thank Mrs. Peel for joining the ranks of a fellow moderator. I needed a fresh set of eyes and help with keeping up with all the threads on here as of late. Nick does a great job of helping me, but as of late, it has been tough to keep up with.... I have no doubt with Mrs. Peel's help..... we can make this into an even more enjoyable forum then it already is.... To everyone that has PM'd me as of late asking for the forum to get back under control on certain subjects..... All I can say is, we will try.... To remind everyone..... This forum was built as designed for the Hobby/Sport of Firearm ownership.... The Main sections of the forum will continue to be about that..... I have moved the Gun Law stuff to its own section on the Main page..... It is simply divided between Current and Pending Gun Law Discussion. I know some threads will have political subjects..... they will be tolerated when dealing with the law itself.... ALL other political posts WILL be moved to the 1A section. If we move a thread into the 1A section, it is NOT punishment. It allows you to freely discuss a subject without Search Engines finding the thread and exposing us in an unfriendly light to the Anti crowd. As far as the PG-13 aspect of the Main Forum...... This is how the Owner of the forum and I want it to be..... IF you do not agree with it, that is your right. But it will not change how I run this forum. I will continue to try and make the Main areas of the forum open and available to all members to feel free to ask questions and gain knowledge of this hobby/sport we are all so passionate about. I know this is a tough time for all of us..... but fighting amongst each other will get us nowhere ...... keep it civil and keep your minds open to other trains of thought....
  13. 17 points
    For all you whiners out there that are always complaining about how the NRA doesn't do anything for us - feast your eyes on this... http://www.anjrpc.org/ February 5-ANJRPC announced today that it has filed suit in federal court to overturn New Jersey's draconian restrictions on carrying a handgun outside the home for self-defense! Under New Jersey law, a permit to carry a handgun may be issued only to those citizens who show that they face a unique need for self-defense - such as specific, documented death threats or actual attacks. Ordinary citizens are barred from carrying a handgun outside the home for self-defense, under threat of up to 10 years in prison. The new lawsuit seeks to overturn New Jersey's carry law on the ground that it violates the Second Amendment. Click here to see a copy of the complaint in the case. In the landmark 2008 Heller decision, the U.S. Supreme Court held that the Second Amendment protects the individual right to keep and bear arms for self-protection, and it struck down a District of Columbia law banning the possession of firearms in the home. "The core Second Amendment right of armed self-defense is just as important to an ordinary New Jersey citizen when she is traveling through a dangerous neighborhood as it is when she is safe in her home," said ANJRPC Executive Director Scott Bach. "The Supreme Court has said that the States cannot ban people from keeping firearms for self-defense in their homes, and New Jersey's restrictions on carrying firearms outside the home will meet the same end." Federal courts in New Jersey have previously upheld the State's restrictions, but the new lawsuit-which was filed in cooperation with the National Rifle Association-asks the courts to take another look at the issue, based on a recent federal decision striking down the District of Columbia's similar law as flatly unconstitutional. "We thank the NRA for its incredible support and guidance, which made this new lawsuit possible," continued Bach. "The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that police have no legal duty to protect individual citizens from harm, which means you're on your own in an emergency," Bach continued. "The same government that abandons its duty to keep you safe should not also block your Constitutional right to protect yourself. Right to carry's time is coming in the Garden State, and ANJRPC and NRA are at the forefront of that movement." Although the lawsuit has already been filed, ANJRPC requests that anyone recently denied a carry permit in New Jersey contact us ASAP at [email protected]. Adios, Pizza Bob
  14. 16 points
    Heres another F U... Right here in my town of North Hanover, virtually in my backyard, just through the woods... He'll have a hard time stopping it since its already done.. And a really really hard time 'embargo-ing' 47,000+ flags... Ironically, as he announced in his press conference today, he will be there this holiday weekend...
  15. 16 points
    Anthony Colandro Pulls No Punches With NJ Senate Committee https://youtu.be/1jtiLoa3mlQ
  16. 16 points
    Going to NJ.com for gun law information is like asking Zeke for grammar lessons.
  17. 16 points
    What the Fuck is wrong with you guys? This shit is exactly why people and vendors give up on this place! You turn a post about a burglary into trashing the guy’s business? Do yourselves a favor and stay on topic or shut the fuck up. You have issues? Speak to him privately. Don’t bash him in public. As with anything else, you don’t like his company? Don’t go.... Fucking arm chair warriors! Un-fucking real! And while you are at it, take your expertise in forensics and get yourself out in the real world and show us your ingenuity. What? Have none? Again! STFU! [emoji35]🤬 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
  18. 15 points
    You know we will now reactivate the three cases! 2 carry and 1 15 round mag! Biden, Murphy, Hochul, and Adams are deeply unhappy and concerned today. Too bad, all I ever wanted for me and my family is the same level of protection that we pay for them to have 24/7!
  19. 15 points
    I’m kind of surprised no one else has mentioned this yet, but of course guns are allowed on boats. How else are you going to lose them in a boating accident?
  20. 15 points
    Are you stupid? This guy is a true conservative and on our side. Dislike button pressed
  21. 14 points
    My views changed considerably. 1). why would anyone need to own an AR-15, it really is just an efficient tool, not the bad black sheep the media makes it out to be. Now I think, everyone should own one. 2). never understood why one person would need more than 100 rounds of ammo. Now I’m nervous with only having 1600 rounds of .45 acp. 3). why does anyone need a gun, once I felt someone could possible tell me I couldn’t own one to protect my family, I couldn’t sit back and take that mentality. Now I feel, everyone should be armed. 4). why does anyone need more than one gun, it is no different than any other hobby, I have multiple golf driver, I have 6 different golf balls I use, I have multiple bowling balls for different types of lanes. I have multiple guns for different uses 5). laws! We’re a needed thing and correct to be implemented. Now, Jesus Christ is an adjustable stock really an evil thing, I look more closely at politicians and their stand on the second amendment while researching. you could say my views on guns have done almost a complete 360.
  22. 14 points
    Thanks for the heads up, but even if they were 11 boxes for 1 cent they can shove it! I have an excellent memory and Dick's will NEVER get one penny from me ever again!
  23. 14 points
    Sorry NYC - you had 6 years to change the law. Sux that you held out until the SC swung to conservative majority. Now get ready for a decision that’s going to pave the way to overturn lots of infringing, anti-2A laws. I hope Bloomberg strokes out.
  24. 14 points
    Strider, You won't find anyone on this board that will advise you turning a firearm in to the police. There are much more beneficial to you methods of disposing of it legally, like selling it for several hundred dollars instead of getting a $25 gift card at a buy back. Furthermore, selling it to another supporter of the 2a is better for our community than having it destroyed and touted by the anti-gun community as another "military grade assault rifle" off the streets. Don't allow it to become a statistic for their benefit.
  25. 14 points
    Should people get training? Yes Should it be a requirement? No
  26. 14 points
    https://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/08/murphy_makes_yet_another_move_to_combat_gun_violen.html Murphy wants to "name and shame" states that follow the constitution, Hey A-hole how about naming and shaming the judges, prosecutors, and AG's who constantly release and plea criminals out. How about naming the criminals who commit these gun crimes and tell us how many PRIOR felonies they have as well as the JUDGES who keep letting them out to prey on us.
  27. 14 points
    At least the State is finally admitting they view law abiding citizens and criminals as one in the same.
  28. 14 points
    It’s privilege for sure, just not white privileged. She is feels privileged by her position, not her race. ETA: Oh, and fuck her apology. That’s a list of excuses, there is not a single apologetic thought in her useless rant. We are all dumber for having had to listen to her. I award her no points, and may God have mercy on her soul.
  29. 14 points
    OK, last thing..... LOl. Yes you can come see ME with your hero file of certificates and I will square you away. As far as the $125.00, I just spoke to my Director of Training and that course was developed on 06/16/2014 by a previous employee. The class was a bit more inclusive, my understanding, and though it was high then, it was also longer. Anyway, in reviewing it more closely, I am lowering it to $75.00 which in my opinion is more reasonable. Also, and for the record, I have always taken the members of this group as kind, well intentioned and responsible gun owners that have passion and pride for the industry. Likewise, I have taken a lot of guidance and advice to help grow this company and to that point I thank you all. My doors are always open and I am not stupid enough to not except change. Change for the betterment of my customers and the betterment of my wallet. lol
  30. 13 points
    Never thought I'd see this in NJ. Convenience store on corner of 571 & S. Stump Tavern in Jackson. Just up the road from CJRPC.
  31. 13 points
    I have mine, and I posted the timeline a page or two before. Yup.
  32. 13 points
    I dropped off my packet at NJSP Washington Station this afternoon. The Sgt. at the front desk looked at everything in it and was clearly referring to a checklist as he did so. He said it looked complete and would pass it to their firearms person. He even volunteered her email address in case I had any questions to ask her. This is what I did: 3 x application form (SP642 6/28/2022) filled in on my PC and printed. My references signed each copy. I signed each copy in front on a notary at the UPS store he and notarized them. 1 x consent for mental health records search (SP066 7/23/2019) Which I signed and one of my references witnessed. The UPS store guy also did my photos. He knew what it was for as soon as I said I needed 4 pictures. He said he had done several already this week, but I was the first person to ask for 1.5"x1.5" rather than 2"x2". He made a mental note to help future customers. (I also was asked questions by the other staff at the store about how to get a gun and a permit - one was a young expecting mother) I got a money order for $50 from the post office and made it out to "Treasurer, State of New Jersey" - I have been advised by the NJSP trooper that handled my (failed) app in 2017 that the wording on the MO has to be exactly that. Anything else has been bounced before I did quals with a certified instructor that has been doing RPO quals for years. He is recognized by NJSP as being certified for that. He signed off that I did the HQC1 and HNCQ. He did not put his NRA certification number on the form so I got it from him and added it myself. I provided a photocopy of my drivers license and my certificate of naturalization. I provided a photocopy of the PtPP that was executed when I acquired each handgun I qualified with. I went to Identogo in Easton, PA this morning as there were no appointments available on the web site in NJ at all. I had to pay extra for out of state, but I was not prepared to wait. I booked the appt on Tuesday and went today (Thursday). I included the receipt in my packet. Before I handed it all in, I made sure I had a copy of everything for my records. Now the wait begins.
  33. 13 points
    I think that most of us realize commemorative firearms aren’t the instant collectible that some people feel they are. In fact, often times the commemorative firearms sell for less than the non-commemorative counterparts – if there is one. Not always true, but if you choose wisely you can end up with a fancy shooter, or a gun that actually does appreciate faster than its non-commemorative counterparts. I crossed the line from being just a purchaser and user of firearms to being a collector in the early part of last year. I came to that realization when I found myself buying guns that I just liked, but had little to no intention of ever shooting, and I’ve been making up for lost time ever since. My first commemorative was purchased solely as a shooter and because the price was more than right. It was a Texas Wagon Train / Texas Sesquicentennial commemorative – a 5” N-frame in .44-40. I like N-frames, especially those with 5” barrels and like calibers that start with a “4”. I got this gun for a song and it was the gun only, no nifty presentation case. It had terrific stocks on it, which I promptly removed and replaced with a Hogue wooden monogrip. I did shoot it some, but it ultimately ended up back in the safe. When I made the transition to collector, I reinstalled the presentation stocks and found the correct case on the Internet. Even piecing it together like that I’m in it for about half of the current going rate. Here it is… My next commemorative purchase was a PASP Model 19-4 – not because I had any affiliation with the PASP (except for a handful of speeding tickets), but because the price was better than I could find on a 4” non-commemorative 19-4. I could keep it as a shooter or as a bargain collectible. Here it is… Somewhere along the way I became enamored with the Heritage series of guns. I purchased several of the Lew Horton Heritage Series, but then found one that was made for Sports South. It did not come in the correct PC aluminum case – instead, it was shipped in a presentation case meant for another firearm – a 1988 Model 629-1 Iditarod Commemorative. I started doing some research on that issue and found that while the case, and even the barrel, said that 1000 of these guns were made, in actuality, the bank failed before the entire thousand gun contract was completed. In fact only 545 of these were made. I endeavored to find a gun only to go with the case that serendipitously came to me. When it rains it pours – I didn’t find a lone gun sans case, I found two consecutively numbered guns that came with everything – cases, boxes, docs, tools, everything. Again they were at a price about equivalent to what you would pay for a regular 629-1. So now I have two complete commemoratives and one extra presentation case. The next commemorative came as a result of me exploring a major auction company. In my perusal of various on-line “for sale” and auction sites I had come across an Elmer Keith 29-3 commemorative. This was one of the regular issue ones with the wooden stocks and it was “spendy” – not outrageously so, considering the embellishments and who it honored. I was sorely tempted. A little further on in the listings I came across another Keith commemorative from the same vendor, only this was one of the Deluxe Additions (the first 100 of the 2500 made that had increased gold embellishments plus real, pre-ban, elephant ivory stocks. Pretty much as the SCSW IV states, they wanted double the amount they were asking for the standard edition. That was too rich for my blood. So I was looking through the catalog of the major upcoming auction and they actually had three Elmer Keith editions – two standards and one deluxe sandwiched between the two. Somebody at that auction company goofed as they all had the same auction estimates. I put in an absentee bid at $100 over the high estimate for the deluxe version. I was watching the auction streaming on my computer. The first standard version came up and got hammered at $100 over high estimate. At that point I figured I was toast – somebody out there had to realize that the deluxe version was worth considerably more than the standard that had just fetched a good price. The deluxe version came up and stalled and then got hammered at the high estimate – which meant that I had won it for $100 less than the standard version. I was ecstatic. Full disclaimer, this was the gun only and did not have the original presentation case with it – it had gone missing in the intervening 35 years. Not to worry, I found a woodworker who specializes in presentation cases – at more than fair prices. We went back and forth on wood types, lining colors, descriptive plaques etc and he is currently in the process of building a fantastically figured, French-fitted, walnut presentation case with a proper descriptive brass plate on the lid. Even with the auction buyer’s premium, the next day air shipping and the bespoke presentation case, I am into this gun for less than half its value. Here is the gun, a 4” Model 29-3, .44 Magnum (as is befitting of the father of the .44 Magnum. I’ll feature the gun and case in a future thread, once I receive the case – if anyone is in need of a presentation case I would be more than happy to put you in touch with this fellow. This brings us to the current week (w/o 8/30). Frustrated by missing a two gun lot at the large auction company’s August sale, I was looking for something to buy. Much searching brought me to a S&W 150th Anniversary Commemorative Model 29-8, .44 Magnum (1852 – 2002). Like the Elmer Keith gun, this one had gold embellishment, including portraits of Horace Smith and Daniel Wesson on the side plate. It was equipped with smooth Herrett (now out of business) stocks and came in a clear-topped, French-fitted presentation case. The funds for that gun are currently at the mercy of the USPS. Here is the seller’s picture of the gun and case… The acquisition of the 150th anniversary gun triggered a desire to acquire the previous anniversary issue, the issue for their 125th anniversary. I had passed on opportunities to purchase this gun many time is the past when I was shopping for “shooters”. Who wanted a .45 Colt with a short cylinder? The Model 25-3, while chambered for .45 Colt used a cylinder with the same length dimension as the .45 ACP Model 25-2. This meant that a lot of traditional, cast 250 grain bullet loads would be too long for the cylinder, unless crimped over the front driving band, rather than, properly, in the crimp groove. Now it was destined to be a safe queen and a complement to the 150th anniversary gun. I went in search of a candidate. Found one, but missed it because I was trying to leverage a better deal. Found another and got it for an even better price. I make this sound like these are out there everywhere – such is not the case. Yes you can find them aplenty, but at exorbitant cost. The really neat thing – and it was totally happenstance, neither the seller nor I realized it (he still doesn’t) at the time of the transaction – is the serial number, First, it is the only time that I have ever seen a non-numeric or alphabetic character used in a serial number – the serial prefix for these guns is “S&W” followed by four numeric characters (these were appx four years before Smith went to their current three alpha / four numeric serial format). This gun was the twelfth gun made of the run of 9,948 standard editions (there were 50 Deluxe Editions and 2 Custom Deluxe Editions). These came with a presentation case that also held a commemorative coin and a book by Roy Jinks – the company historian, called 125 years with Smith and Wesson. The gun has custom gold-filled roll marks but not the fancy gold embellishments found on the Keith gun or the 150th anniversary gun. Here is the seller’s picture of the gun and case. Funds for this one were mailed this morning. I will be applying for a Multiple Purchase Exemption for the Keith gun and the two anniversary guns. Given the times we’re living in, I have no idea how long that will take, but if I do it within the OGAM framework, it would be mid-December before I had them all. If you have managed to make it through this entire magnum opus, kudos to you. I hope you came away with an appreciation and better understanding of commemorative guns. Adios, Pizza Bob
  34. 13 points
    FYI: the Honorable Roger T. Benitez was born in Havana, Cuba. He understands these communists and sees right through them: "This conclusion should not be considered groundbreaking. It is simply a straightforward application of constitutional law to an experimental governmental-overreach that goes far beyond traditional boundaries of reasonable gun regulation."
  35. 13 points
    I took a 2 hour drive north up to the Tampa Florida fair. Before I left I checked the Fair web page for their policy on CC. I found very little. After we parked the car I was standing at the main entrance ticket booth and noticed metal detectors and a few deputies. I walked up and asked if concealed weapons were permitted on the fair grounds. He asked if I had one. I told him I did and he asked for my CWFL. He got on his radio and ran the number. It came back with my full name and he said follow me around the line and the metal detectors. He than said have a nice day. I waited for my wife and noticed other deputies escorting others around the line as well. Very professional law enforcement agency.
  36. 13 points
    Bought this beauty off 1563621 today. Apparently all original except the op rod is a National Match. Gauges 1 and 1 with a bright shiny bore. We have a date this Sunday at Range-14.
  37. 13 points
    If you own firearms and don't vote R. You might as well sell all your guns. Have to get all the fudds out to vote too!
  38. 13 points
  39. 13 points
    Attended the Oaks Gun Show on 8/5 with a friend. He had some specific wants and I was just tagging along to see if anything "spoke" to me. We walked all the way through both rooms (this Oaks was advertised as being a 1000 table show). My friend's FitBit indicated we had walked almost 2.5 miles. Clear back in the corner of the first room was a small dealer with two handgun display cases. A quick perusal revealed a short-barreled revolver with ill-fitting grips. It appeared to be an N-frame S&W and when I asked to see it that assumption was borne out. A Model 25-14 which is chambered for .45 ACP. These had a 3" barrel, and a four-screw, square-butt frame. And the price tag was a bargain. I believe that it was overlooked by the previous day's crowd of shoppers because someone had fitted it with K/L-frame Smith target grips - which, while they will go on an N-frame look really bad. I didn't buy it right then because I wanted to do a little research before I "pulled the trigger." My research at home revealed that this was a Lew Horton Distributors special. In 2006 he had contracted for 500 total units - 250 in blue and 250 in nickel. The blue and nickel had unique serial number prefixes. These were made on what Smith calls their Classic frame - which just means the screw in the upper sideplate returns, making it a four-screw frame. Also it has striations on the front and back strap of the grip frame. I e-mailed the seller and told him that he could keep the grips and offered him $60 less than the asking price. He countered with a $10 increase and I couldn't figuratively reach my wallet fast enough. Ordered two sets of grips while I was waiting for the gun. Picked it up last night and installed the grips right at the dealer. So without further delay, here is number 63 of 250... The grips are Altamont bonded-ivory magnas with a BK grip adapter. The N-frames are taking over my safe. Adios, Pizza Bob
  40. 13 points
  41. 13 points
    If I had access to his info, I would have done the guy a solid and called him directly to come back to get his piece and let him know its not kosher to conceal carry or transport a firearm in that manner in the PRNJ.
  42. 13 points
    Make sure you read to the end, it's a good ending.... A few weeks back, I was driving to work and caught this one at about 6:15am: I sent a link to this video to the email that Riverdale police have on their website, then I left for vacation. When I returned, this was on my phone(I clipped his name off the front of the audio clip): As I was digging through my emails, catching up, I had this in my inbox:(I deleted her name) ---------------------------- <WITHHELD> <*************@yahoo.com> Sun 5/20/2018 12:13 PM To: *******, Mark; You forwarded this message on 5/21/2018 7:20 AM. Dear Mr. ******* My name is **** ****** and I would like to thank you for sending in the video to the Riverdale PD of the accident that happened on Route 23. I believe in guardian angels and you were mine on that day. I would like you to know that you saved me a lot of money because your video showed the officer that I was not at fault. Thank you so much for taking the time to send this in even though it wasn't something you were obligated to do. Again thank you very much. Sincerely **** ******
  43. 13 points
    Did I make any headway with her anti position? Probably not. I think I did achieve something really good. Civil discussion and she spent 2 hours in the range walking around and taking to customers and staff. So maybe, just maybe, the next time she is drafting a bill she may go a little easier. Who knows, only time can tell. I will say that we have been communication a lot and she might put me on an advisory panel! I had to take the shot. Digging our heels in and insulting her is not going to win her over for sure. We are in the weakest position we have EVER been in, in NJ so I extended the olive branch. Now I am working on getting the new Gun Czar in. I almost had the new AG (who has in fact shot here a few times) to come in but because I a the EVP of ANJRPC and we have the carry lawsuit against the State there was a conflict and he had to cancel. I will say we should stop with the insults and be civil. NO I an not getting weak, I am being realistic. Have a nice day! Ant Oh, one more thing..... Ray, is that really you posting?
  44. 13 points
    Such a beautiful piece. I’m honored to own one. The trigger really is as nice as I’ve heard. The bluing is a mile deep. The grips and assorted small parts all seem original to the gun. No box/papers but it does have the letter from Colt’s archives. Built late ‘71 or very early ‘72. Shipped in Feb ‘72 to a dealer in NYC. I am the third owner. It’s had a very easy life. Maybe a few hundred rounds thru it. I plan on adding a few to that number. No too many, but a few.
  45. 13 points
    I am really loathe to respond to your bait, because it just gives you undeserved attention. However, there are several points that need to be addressed. First are your disparaging remarks about "God given rights". The bill of rights does not grant you those rights, it simply enumerates them. For those that are religious, that would be interpreted as "God given". For those of us that are not religious they would be natural rights. The 2A is actually the right of self-preservation. Driving a car or flying a drone are not rights. A more accurate analogy would be, do you want the government to vet you before it allows you to practice the religion of your choice? In your opening paragraph you have already given yourself away when you allude to the "other side's" argument as possibly having more "common sense" - a buzz-word used by the anti-2A faction for years. They have no common sense. An element of common sense requires logic - the arguments they make to oppress our right are based on emotion, not logic. There is no compromise when it comes to the 2A. The antis have been selling the "compromise" paradigm for years. Their definition of compromise is that we give up something and get nothing in return - I don't think that is how Webster defines compromise. If you truly believe what you wrote, you are part of the problem, not part of the solution. I'm done here - I will give you no more recognition and I hope that my fellow board members feel and act likewise. Be gone troll. Adios, Pizza Bob
  46. 13 points
    Are we seriously debating this? We teach our kids this before kindergarten: "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should." On a different note - if you are going to any kind of rally/protest/march/etc... and you see KKK or swastikas, that's a clue to about face and go home. All your presence does is add credence to those awful people. Standing shoulder to shoulder with a brown shirt or a white sheet will never ever help our cause.
  47. 12 points
  48. 12 points
    County: Hunterdon Fingerprinted: 6/30 - Easton, PA Applied via: NJSP Washington 6/30 Approved by NJSP Washington: Approx 8/9 Approved by NJSP FIU: 8/15 Received by court: 8/18 Docketed by court: 8/19 Approved by court: 9/14 I don't have it in hand yet, but I'm told it is restricted to the guns I qualified with. When I get the paperwork I'll know about any other details.
  49. 12 points
    So, uh, what do you do if you have a deadly force confrontation under normal daylight conditions? You know, where a bad guy can see you, and therefore your mere presence gives away your position? Do you quickly throw on your cloak of invisibility? You can’t quickly discriminate a deadly threat from a non-deadly threat, if you can’t see. You can’t accurately shoot a positively IDed threat, if you can’t see. You can’t accurately determine if your shots hit, if you can’t see. You can’t verify that your hits worked to incapacitate your threat, if you can’t see. The ability to see, and the mentally process what you see, is the single most important factor in deciding who wins a gunfight. Why should you engage in a gunfight and remove your biggest advantage ON PURPOSE?!?!? The weapon light is not for navigating your home. It’s for friend/foe identification and for making deadly force decision with proper information. I don’t care if you can somersault around your house blindfolded and never bump a wall or piece of furniture. That’s not what the light is for. What’s important is determining if what you are pointing your gun at is a deadly threat that is a valid target, or not - and doing it faster than your opponent By getting inside their OODA loop. But, but, but ambient light and stuff!! Even under full daylight conditions you may need a weapon light to target discriminate a threat, let alone ambient light. Here is my son, in my kitchen during the day. (This is simply for demonstration of light conditions and how we “see” the world, even when it isn’t dark out. I’m not advocating shooting children burglars in your home, or even offering up a scenario for discussion. He is simple the model I had on hand to demonstrate this very common setup of bright background with shadow.) What’s in his hand? A SIRT training pistol or a TV remote? How fast could you make the determination of a shoot/no shoot under these common daytime, normal, lighting conditions if my son was actually an unknown person?
  50. 12 points

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